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Is Ted Cruz Wrong
Washington Post ^ | Feb 23, 2015 | Jennifer Ruben

Posted on 02/23/2016 7:53:13 AM PST by New Jersey Realist

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To: New Jersey Realist

Rubin is a Cruz hating idiot, through and through.


41 posted on 02/23/2016 8:48:34 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Slyfox
Is Trump pro-life today?

No. He's just saying that because he knows it's what you want to hear. He's trying to sell you something - himself. He's like a used car salesman.

He says PP does good things. What do they do? Refer people to go somewhere else.... unless they want an abortion.
PP is an abortion factory and Trump knows it. He may be nothing but a hot head, but even he is well aware of that.

42 posted on 02/23/2016 8:52:52 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics
Which begs the question:

Who will school Trump on the social issues?

The one guy giving him a lot of advice right now is Roger Stone who co-created the Republicans for Choice with his then wife Ann.

R for C was specifically designed to destroy the pro-life plank in the RNC Platform.

So who is going to school Trump in pro-life issues?

Roger that.

43 posted on 02/23/2016 8:57:03 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: concerned about politics

I can understand changing positions - that is called learning - if it follows a pattern. But out and out lying is wrong and clearly establishes a pattern. I do believe that Trump will admit (and has) when he makes a mistake. We all make them! I haven’t heard one word about Trump lying about anyone’s record as Cruz has. Correct me if I’m wrong.


44 posted on 02/23/2016 8:59:55 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Please define a conservative..... in New Jersey. Is that big boy big talker Christie one? Cause he sounds like tony soprano on TV. Tough cream puff.

Trump is NO conservative. Loves big government in the service of his own self. Actions: see Menie, Scotland and the incredible personalized abuse this man put on the good people of Scotland. He is 12 years old with bigger toys.

Your understanding of the Gang of Eight is flawed. Cruz pushed to strip out the Path to Citizenship part of the Gang of 8’s bill, because he knew that Schumer and the democrats would drop the bill without full citizenship. Immediate citizenship is against the law, and he knew that. Legal status is not the same thing— and would require reviewing every illegal here. Rubio on the other hand- wants all the illegals to be citizens, right now. Ain’t that great?


45 posted on 02/23/2016 9:09:37 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Slyfox
Donald Trump bashed Cruz when Cruz called McConnell a liar. At issue were assurances Cruz claimed McConnell, R-Ky., had given that there was no deal to allow a vote to renew the federal Export-Import Bank -- a little-known federal agency that has become a rallying cry for conservatives. Cruz rose to deliver his remarks moments after McConnell had lined up a vote on the bank.

Trump sided with McConnell then.
Now he claims he believed otherwise, of course. He's got a lot snake oil he has to sell.

Donald Trump on professional temperament yesterday......
"Ted has got a rough temperament, you can't call people liars on the Senate floor when they are your leaders. Not a good thing to do if you want to curry favor and get the positive votes later on down, Trump said.

Donald Trump on professional temperament today.....
LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!

Will the REAL Donald Trump please stand up?

46 posted on 02/23/2016 9:11:41 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: John S Mosby

A conservative in this country is a person who stands by what the Framers wrote and meant in the Constitution. All I hear from Trump supports everything our Framers stood for. I never once heard Trump deny ANY thing they stood for. I do believe he is on point about every original Amendment. Modern Amendments such as the 14th are bothersome and that is why he so strongly opposes anchor babies.


47 posted on 02/23/2016 9:18:36 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: concerned about politics
"Ted has got a rough temperament, you can't call people liars on the Senate floor when they are your leaders.

So, The Donald feels the need to qualify when to call someone a liar?

He believes that you do not call a leader a liar.

Who else has done that in the past?

Let us put our thinking caps on.

Hmmm.

Stalin didn't like people calling him a liar and the gulag or a firing squad was the result.

In jolly old England, to infer that Queen Elizabeth was not telling the truth was reason enough to attaint that person with high treason and take away all of their property and conduct a trial where the defendant had no access to legal representation, with the obvious outcome of being hung, drawn and quartered.

Do we really want to follow Trump's advice to not call leaders liars?

48 posted on 02/23/2016 9:21:22 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: New Jersey Realist
All I hear from Trump supports everything our Framers stood for.

I would like to hear specifics from Trump. Is that possible?

How much does he really know about the Constitution?

It is one thing to say that he supports everything, it is another thing to detail the support.

49 posted on 02/23/2016 9:24:02 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: New Jersey Realist
But out and out lying is wrong and clearly establishes a pattern.

He's lying about being conservative. Before deciding to run he was to the left of Hillary. That's a fact. That's why he paid for the democrats campaigns. Shouldn't he have funded every conservative candidate running AGAINST the democrats instead?
NOW, on the campaign trail, he's for subsidies - winners and losers. He wants to INCREASE them for a useless product like ethanol.
He's saying, right now, he wants to continue PP funding.
He saying he believes heath care should be single payer.

He's lying about being a conservative - because he's running as a left wing democrat! LISTEN to what he's saying himself!!
The only issue he's got that's conservative is the border - and even then 2 years ago he supported amnesty!
Who is the REAL Donald Trump? He's running as a left wing democrat, yet people aren't hearing a word he's saying. LISTEN to him. He's not even close to being conservative - even now!


50 posted on 02/23/2016 9:24:29 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Slyfox

You are killing me! For the last 8 years we have been complaining about the lily-livered, weak-kneed GOP that represents us. Along comes Trump who dares to defy political correctness and you have the audacity to compare him to Stalin. Go ahead, vote for your loser, let’s see where that gets you. Another thing, Cruz is ignoring his Senatorial duties; is he collecting his paycheck? The guy is a phony panderer and you are buying it. A true conservative would not collect money for a job he is not doing.


51 posted on 02/23/2016 9:44:44 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: New Jersey Realist; All

Cruz staffer saying he can’t win either.

“The Cruz campaign has to focus on getting basic campaign techniques right,” said a Republican operative who works for the presidential campaign, who asked not to be identified. “I don’t think Cruz can win the nomination at this point. I think his campaign is done.”

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/22/politics/ted-cruz-under-fire/index.html


52 posted on 02/23/2016 9:46:13 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Right, a “Cruz staffer”..... “Calling Roger Stone”.... “Roger Stone to the courstesy phone” at the Fontainbleu Hotel Miami.....

Look up Roger Stone— just for a “clue”. With whose blessing?
Cause he used to work for trump— “used to” is a euphemism for “off the books”.

There comes a time when principled people will not forget the a@@holes who are approved of and employed by unprincipled liars and personalized attack children.


53 posted on 02/23/2016 9:51:31 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: New Jersey Realist

1. Trump is a blowhard and 2. I trust Rush’s assessment of Curz’s conservatism.


54 posted on 02/23/2016 9:55:33 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Slyfox

Don’t vote for him then if you have doubts. But voting for a liar and a cheater up to his eyeballs in dirty tricks is OK, right? For your information we all change our minds about certain things. Reagan was a Democrat and a union supporter, as was Charlton Heston (who believed in gun control at one time). They both became very good conservatives as I’m sure many other previous democrats did. I know I was raised and stayed a Democrat until Ronald Reagan came around.

Trumps ego wouldn’t dare allow him to back off the things he propagates now.


55 posted on 02/23/2016 9:56:31 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: tbpiper

Blowhard? He is saying what Americans want to hear. The Silent Majority has harkened to his call. His political incorrectness is about as refreshing as a glass of water after a day in the desert.

Have you even listened to one of his campaign speeches? Perhaps you should watch and compare it to one of Cruz’s. You Tube is loaded with them. Dare you to watch!

All we have wanted over the past 8 years is for someone to stand up to establishment GOP. Cruz doesn’t fit that bill and I can’t think of any way he changed anyone’s mind in the Senate. He is no leader. TRUMP IS.


56 posted on 02/23/2016 10:07:03 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: tbpiper

Furthermore, Look at Cruz’s legislative history on Congressional Quarterly’s database and you will find that since he became a senator in January 2013, he has been the main sponsor on 44 bills and a cosponsor on 187. Of those on which he was the primary sponsor, only one passed. That is leadership? And the one that passed? Something about stoping Iran’s proposed U.N. envoy from entering the United States; Iranian Ambassador Hamid Aboutalebi


57 posted on 02/23/2016 10:17:43 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: New Jersey Realist

OK— good definition. Now we conservatives should realize how our “institutional” leaders have lost the moral high ground, for example the spinning of the “14th Amendment” wording to say if one is born here you instantly become a citizen.
That is, and agree with you— simply NOT in the Amendment. The Amendment was directed at former slaves being emancipated. But for libs to pick this to mean ANYONE born here, from foreign parent visitors etc....and for supposed Republican “conservatives” (basking in their Lincolnian glory of “winning” the Civil War to impart Radical Republican agenda in this Amendment and Reconstruction)to agree with them is criminal.
A principled conservative who is a leader and not authoritarian would be a rare thing to find indeed. It is the authoritarianism that people dislike. In obamaumao it is marxist fascist dictatorship and malignant narcisissm. Our stupid electorate will jump on the next swing of the pendulum, contrived as conservatism. And Hillary would be a disaster of corruption and filthy perversion.

Leave you with an Orwell quote: “The real division is not between conservatives and revolutionaries but between authoritarians and libertarians.”


58 posted on 02/23/2016 10:18:50 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: DaveyB

Hey at least Trump isnt under FEC investigation!-) From 2/21/16:
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/050/201602210300038050/201602210300038050.pdf?platform=hootsuite


59 posted on 02/23/2016 10:33:39 AM PST by Harpotoo
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To: New Jersey Realist

His legislative history has been one of making a lot of Republican senators look bad for not keeping promises and not standing for the constitution. I’m sure that has influence his numbers adversely.


60 posted on 02/23/2016 10:34:41 AM PST by tbpiper
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