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Why is everything amnesty? Let's Understand the Definition of the Term Shall We?
American Thinker ^ | 02/26/2016 | Silvio Canto Jr

Posted on 02/26/2016 7:45:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

First, he gives a definition and then proceeds to argue for ways to get around the law. Talking out of both sides of his mouth, he is.


21 posted on 02/26/2016 8:18:36 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Sacajaweau
Uhhhh ... yeah .... THAT'S the point

The subject is amnesty .... not blacks or native Americans or LBwhatever-they-are-these-days ..... but illegals ...

Which .... by definition .... is one group of people

22 posted on 02/26/2016 8:35:11 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My plan has subtle but significant differences:

1) The illegal immigrant would be given a chance to self-deport before a real American takes office as president; the election of a decent American as president constitutes fair warning.

2) Illegals found in the country after January 20, 2017 would undergo a full criminal background check including fingerprints and DNA swabs, then be deported and permanently barred from any legal reentry or path to citizenship. The fingerprints and DNA would be used to identify that individual in the future and prevent reentry.

3) The illegal will, before deportation, pay a fine for violating the law and or not filing tax returns;

4) The illegal will also undergo a period of detention before deportation during which the illegal will live in a tent in Arizona, no wifi, no TV, until all appeals (if any) are exhausted;

5) No path to citizenship or green card will be available to this person; and,

6) Employers will be harshly punished, including jail time, for hiring someone without papers.

I’m okay with the above plan, and it’s close to the one presented. The difference is my plan does not reward criminal behavior. Those who came here illegally in the past or who come here illegally in the future should not have any advantage at all over those from the same country who are following the law and applying for legal entry.


23 posted on 02/26/2016 8:41:54 AM PST by Pollster1 ("A Bill of Rights that means what the majority wants it to mean is worthless." - Scalia)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wonder how many friends & relatives Rubio would fast-track for citizenship if he had the opportunity?


24 posted on 02/26/2016 8:49:29 AM PST by conservativesister (And FReepers, please quit attacking each other. We're all in this together.-"JR" i)
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To: SeekAndFind

No “amnesty” whatsoever. Force the feds to enforce the laws already on the books. If you’re here illegaly, you get a one-way ticket back home, with NO chance for return. If we find the persons that employed you, THEY go to jail. If you’re a state or government entity that runs a “sanctuary city” or “sanctuary state” the politicians, administrators, and law enforcement for that area get stripped of their titles and put in JAIL.

The laws are already on the books, it’s up to the people to force the politicians to ENFORCE them! Hold their feet to the fire, and throw them out if they refuse to comply.


25 posted on 02/26/2016 8:50:15 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: bert

Definition of Conditional amnesty: provisional pardon, qualified acquittal, immunity subject to conditions

Vietnam draft dodgers and deserters: those involved agreed to reaffirm their allegiance to the United States and serve two years working in a public service job.
How many actually fulfilled these conditions?
Recent Obama “immigrants” agreed to show up for court hearings, but 90% blew then off.
No amnesty.


26 posted on 02/26/2016 8:51:14 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Illegal immigrants have NO RIGHTS to anything as it pertains to this country. Honestly we should have an absolute moratorium on ALL immigration for the next 10 years so this nation can heal itself.


27 posted on 02/26/2016 8:52:17 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: 5th MEB

“Letting anyone, from any country, stay here who came here illegally is AMNESTY.”

That has always been the FR definition of Amnesty...until FOREIGN BORN TED CRUZ.


28 posted on 02/26/2016 8:53:29 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: factoryrat

RE: If you’re here illegaly, you get a one-way ticket back home, with NO chance for return.

Well, it looks like Trump is even more lenient than you.

Trump allows a walk back provision for those deported who (other than being here illegally ), did not break any other laws.


29 posted on 02/26/2016 8:53:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
So in other words, you want to turn Obama's executive order amnesties into permanent law.

No thanks.

30 posted on 02/26/2016 8:57:00 AM PST by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason)
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To: knarf

WTF is your problem, dude? Illegal is illegal, period. They are criminals simply be being here. Expel them all including their families. Any USA-born kids can claim citizenship when they turn 21.

We have all the lettuce pickers and chicken pluckers we need. They are sitting on their porch watching for the mailman who brings their welfare check. There is no need to import more human detritus when the manpower is already here.

And don’t throw the “doing jobs Americans won’t do” crapola around. If the porch sitters get hungry enough, they will pick lettuce.


31 posted on 02/26/2016 9:00:37 AM PST by ByteMercenary (Healthcare Insurance is *NOT* a Constitutional right.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I say we deport Silvio Taco back to Mexico.


32 posted on 02/26/2016 9:03:36 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Trump allows a walk back provision for those deported who (other than being here illegally ), did not break any other laws.”

No, what he said was they would have to apply from their home nation and be vetted just like any other immigrant.


33 posted on 02/26/2016 9:05:54 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: ByteMercenary
Analyze your reply in light of Trump's wall and re-entrance

Trump is Prez, the wall is up, the door is open and people man the desks ...

WHAT do you suppose those people are doing ?

fingerprinting, background checks, verifying employment, accepting checks .... maybe even applying ankle bracelets !

They WERE kicked out ... as illegals .... and they're now attempting to return legally

And as an aside ... the porch monkeys will probably end up dead or in prison because the lack of a gummint check is not an inducement to DO something about what is missing from within


The key phrase for me is ... CORE VALUES

Y'got 'em ... or you don't

34 posted on 02/26/2016 9:07:56 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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