Posted on 03/31/2016 3:51:54 PM PDT by Kaslin
Trump has posted his views..
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Donald_Trump_Abortion.htm
This was a shock interview, by a frothing at the mouth liberal
It’s pathetic to watch Cruz supporters here who claim they are more Christian and Conservative than we Trump sinners brigade are spin the notion that if by some miracle abortion were illegal that women who pay for illegal abortions and murder their babies anyhow should suffer no statutory penalty
If there is no penalty for illegal abortions then it’s not against the law
It’s just a suggestion
I personally don’t care what the pro life professional lobbying orgs say
I don’t have much in common with them beyond opposing abortion
Their queasiness hasn’t gotten 45 million spared since Roe has it
I’m anti abortion
Tying that up in a culture of sanctity of life in general complicates it
Being against murdering babies isn’t complicated
Trump gave an honest answer he should not have parsed later
Cruz gave a political evasive non answer because he has no balks
Heidi and Amanda are still arguing how to divide them up with Michelle Fields
2 divided by 3 ain’t purty
A tiny fraction of people supporting Trump care about this crap
“Odd. He gave EXACTLY the answer that the hard line pro-lifers have always said was the correct one.
It was indeed intuitive. But if you pay someone to murder your wife and get caught, both you and he go to jail. It’s called “accessory.”
And he didn’t need a Texas law degree to figure that out.”
Kinda hard to impeach your reasoning on this. Maybe Kaslin can take a crack at it : )
Donna, you are just amazing.
The lengths you trumpers will go to justify even the most stupid and ridiculous ideas from your holy leader.
I cannot even believe your post.
Oh, wait, I can.
#14 the same place Donnie was. Supporting Abortion AND planned Parenthood
You probably got that right.
Only a tiny fraction of trumpers care about anything except nominating this woeful candidate.
What??? Stating that women are victims and are not deserving of punishment isn't conservative enough???
Post something interesting. At least I'm trying.
“Trump gave an honest answer he should not have parsed later
Cruz gave a political evasive non answer because he has no balks”
I think you meant balls. Carly is holding them in an escrow account.
You’ve joined the pathetic.
It’s the real world out there.
It’s trumpville in here.
But the real world is voting and they don’t like your hero.
LOL! So it seems.
The founding Fathers and the Right to Life by Jameson Taylor
The Declaration of Independence draws a very clear line between sanity and insanity by proclaiming the existence of certain self-evident truths that all rational men should recognize: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
A self-evident truth is, by definition, evident to anyone who is sane. Persons who do not accept that all human beings are endowed with an inalienable right to life—for example, the 82 percent of Americans who think abortion should be legal—are, by this definition, insane.
The right to life is inalienable because it is not of human, but of divine origin. Because man does not create himself, he cannot deprive himself of the primary goods that are inherent to human existence: life, freedom and happiness. Just as no government can deny its citizens these inalienable rights, neither can a man deprive himself of these rights. The “inalienable” right to life thus precludes abortion as well as suicide.
A Closer Look at Roe
But what about Roe vs. Wade? Does a “penumbra,” or shadow, of the 14th Amendment guarantee a right to privacy that includes the right to an abortion?
The fact is, as Justice Byron White’s dissenting opinion in Roe vs. Wade concluded, there is “nothing in the language or history of the Constitution to support the Court’s judgement.” Indeed, just as the logical development of the Declaration’s recognition of man’s inherent liberty required federal intervention to abolish slavery, the Declaration’s acknowledgment of the inalienable right to life would seem to favor federal intervention to end abortion.
James Wilson’s “Lectures on Law,” given at what eventually was to become the University of Pennsylvania, clearly affirm that the right to life encompasses the unborn. Wilson was one of only six men to sign both the Declaration and the Constitution, and was a Supreme Court justice from 1789 to 1798. Recognized as “the most learned and profound legal scholar of his generation,” Wilson’s lectures were attended by President George Washington, Vice President John Adams, Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson and a “galaxy of other republican worthies.” For this reason, as constitutional scholar Walter Berns states, “Wilson, when speaking on the law, might be said to be speaking for the Founders generally.” So what do the Founders say about the right to life?
Wilson clearly answers this question: “With consistency, beautiful and undeviating, human life from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law. In the contemplation of law, life begins when the infant is first able to stir in the womb. By the law, life is protected not only from immediate destruction, but from every degree of actual violence, and in some cases, from every degree of danger.”
Given Wilson’s exegesis, one cannot doubt that the Founders recognized that unborn infants are owed the full protection of the law. The key question thus becomes the point at which the unborn fetus becomes an unborn child.
Wilson, in agreement with the limited medical jurisprudence of his time, assumed that life begins with the “quickening” of the infant in his mother’s womb. As taught by Aristotle, the quickening was the point at which the fetus was infused with a human, rational soul. John Bouvier’s Law Dictionary, first printed in 1839, defines the quickening as follows: “The motion of the foetus, when felt by the mother, is called quickening, and the mother is then said to be quick with child. This happens at different periods of pregnancy in different women, and in different circumstances, but most usually about the fifteenth or sixteenth week after conception….”
One of the sources of both Wilson’s and Bouvier’s opinion is William Blackstone’s widely read Commentaries on the Laws of England (1765-1769). Blackstone’s discussion of the quickening observes: “Life is the immediate gift of God, a right inherent by nature in every individual; and it begins in contemplation of law as soon as an infant is able to stir in the mother’s womb. For if a woman is quick with child, and by a potion, or otherwise, killeth it in her womb… this, though not murder, was by the ancient law homicide or manslaughter. But at present it is not looked upon in quite so atrocious a light, though it remains a very heinous misdemeanor…”
cont. reading here: http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/tay/tay_03foundingfather.html
bttt
Of course. The only people who care about this "gaffe" is die-hard beltway types sipping lattes in the Capital.
And die-hard Rafael supporters who are scarfing down Mountain Dew and Cheetos in their Mother's basement.
he should have said...”God will punish them”.
: )
You should be more like the other Altura
I love the way you are so convinced that you are better informed than EVERYBODY. You are quite quick to display your misappropriated smugness. So quick actually, that you ignore a fact that stares at you 24 hours a day.
The “conservative” wing is small compared to the total republican vote. That is a very simply fact, not my take on things. It will never be large enough to get Ted over the line as the bulk of his people are from that source demographic. Never. Enough.
Those issues are not what is driving voters now.
So, do your small ball insulting for as long as you can. Then go away in a big fluffy huff.
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