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Getting Set To Pick Up The Pieces Of ObamaCare’s Collapse
New York Post ^ | April 19, 201 | Betsy McCaughey

Posted on 04/21/2016 7:05:26 AM PDT by MarvinStinson

ObamaCare’s collapsing.

UnitedHealth announced it will abandon most ObamaCare markets.

Giant insurers like Aetna and the BlueCross Blue Shield Association are next. They warned last week losses trying to sell ObamaCare plans are “unsustainable” and they’ll either stop selling the plans or significantly raise premiums.

Even Hillary Clinton’s campaign admits the cost of ObamaCare is “crushing.”

Six years of ObamaCare have taught the nation lessons that Republicans should not ignore.

Keep it short: Don’t give us another 2,572-page “comprehensive” health bill that lawmakers vote on without reading.

What Congress passes, Congress must live by: Under Obamacare, members of Congress and their staffs get lavish subsidies — as much as $12,000 a year — to pay their ObamaCare premiums. Nobody else in America earning close to $174,000 a year (a member’s base pay) qualifies for a subsidy.

Don’t try to sell health plans to chronically ill people and healthy people for the same price: That’s like trying to feed a Chihuahua and a Great Dane on the same budget.

Five percent of the population with chronic illnesses consumes 50 percent of health care. When plans are priced the same for everyone, the sick rush to buy and the healthy refuse. It’s a bad deal. That’s what drove healthy people out of the insurance market in NY two decades ago. It’s doing the same thing nationwide now.

“Premiums were just too low,” said Larry Levitt of Kaiser — too low to care for the chronically ill, but far higher than what’s needed to cover people with normal health problems.

Any GOP plan should help the chronically ill with separate risk pools of their own (35 states had them before ObamaCare forced them to close).

Make insurance premiums fully tax deductible, whether you get your plan at work or buy it yourself:

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; aetna; bluecrossblueshield; exchanges; healthinsurers; obamacare; obamacarecollapse; unitedhealth

1 posted on 04/21/2016 7:05:26 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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2 posted on 04/21/2016 7:08:28 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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If you’re going to reform health care and reduce costs, you need to get rid of most if not all mandated coverage. One very bare boned plan that wouldn’t include things like gender change surgery. Senior citizens could opt out of coverage for abortions.

The left won’t like it because they think every one should have the same coverage at the same cost. The insurance companies won’t like it because they will lose business.


3 posted on 04/21/2016 7:14:10 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: MarvinStinson

This lady has done some of the finest reporting on Obamacare, bar none.

That being said, her proposed solution will NEVER be adopted. The Dems and the media would start eating Republicans alive with poor sucker stories, featuring poor, sick people who are being “raped by EEEEEEVIL insurance companies”.

We’re on the final approach to single payer.


4 posted on 04/21/2016 7:16:15 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MarvinStinson

You know what is absolutely the most infuriating thing about all of this? (Excepting the stupidity of starting it in the first place and destroying the existing health care frameworks)

It is that even if Obamacare dies, the tens of thousands (or even hundreds of thousands) of federal and state bureaucrats will likely continue to exist in some way, like some giant headless monster.

All the furniture, computers, buildings, and other things that are part of a large bureaucracy won’t go away either. They are going to find a way to keep them all “on hand” with their “valuable” experience while they try to formulate a follow-up to Obamacare.

Like a one-way ratchet, they will never give up ground they have lost. The last department I can even think of that was actually disbanded was Office of Economic Opportunity in 1981.


5 posted on 04/21/2016 7:16:50 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: DugwayDuke

End it. Don’t mend it.


6 posted on 04/21/2016 7:18:46 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: rlmorel

Interesting.


7 posted on 04/21/2016 7:19:39 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: rlmorel

Eventually they will run out of money. Then the fun begins.


8 posted on 04/21/2016 7:31:05 AM PDT by refermech
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To: refermech

The half-life of Communism appears to be around 70 years.


9 posted on 04/21/2016 7:33:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MarvinStinson

Good. It never was designed to provide us healthcare anyway.


10 posted on 04/21/2016 7:45:14 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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In other words, all is going according to plan. Once the private insurers flee the playing field the government runs a single payer system and has complete control over one out of every six dollars spent in the United States.

I believe it was Stalin who said that if you want to control the people you must seize control of their health care.


11 posted on 04/21/2016 7:56:20 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Hillary - Ethically sleazy and politically stupid)
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“Make insurance premiums fully tax deductible, whether you get your plan at work or buy it yourself:”


12 posted on 04/21/2016 8:13:26 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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“We’re on the final approach to single payer.”

Do you think insurance companies would let that happen?

Please understand that I am not being snarky asking that. I can’t see a case where insurance companies will allow the Feds to walk in and destroy their cash cows. They’ve already had a taste of it with Obamacare.

I do see a case where “single payer” is in effect under the guise of one or two insurance companies being available in a region. However, that’s going to take a relatively long time to get to that point nationwide.


13 posted on 04/21/2016 8:18:24 AM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: MarvinStinson

Restore a free market in health insurance and the prices will tumble.


14 posted on 04/21/2016 8:35:37 AM PDT by caddie
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To: DugwayDuke
Another expensive mandate is substance abuse. There is a well-known rehab place which constantly runs television adds with the refrain "Chemical abuse can happen to anyone at anytime." I shout back "No it can't you damn morons! Not if you refuse to put that $#*+ in your body!"

The state mandate is one reason Pennsylvania was a mecca for winos and druggies before Obama made it go national. I'm understanding that some people might get hooked on painkillers and the like due to an accident or something. But dammit, they should at least limit it to exclude the professional druggie class which is forever in rehab!

Institutionalize the sobs or exile them to some tent city in the desert after so many attempts. I'm tired of paying the freight on these jay-birds!

15 posted on 04/21/2016 9:14:25 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: MarvinStinson

Socialism at it finest more to ensue.


16 posted on 04/21/2016 9:16:24 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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“Do you think insurance companies would let that happen?”

What are they going to do about it? They supported ObamaCare because they salivated at the prospect of millions of involuntary “customers” forced to pay them; now they realize (and they should have foreseen this) that they’ve gotten an older, sicker pool of customers than they expected (or wanted), completely distorting any actuarial projections (which are used to determine premiums).

Here in NJ our non-public education and healthcare industries are very successfully being destroyed by the government; massive public school taxes have made any alternative unaffordable to most parents, and low reimbursement for required care for uninsured (often illegal) patients has closed down hospitals.

The government can do as it pleases (unless the last seven years haven’t illustrated that enough); they fear (and face) no reprisals.


17 posted on 04/21/2016 10:30:14 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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Do you think insurance companies would let that happen?

They are currently in the process of buying one another. Once we get down to a handful of companies, it's a simple matter of handing out golden parachutes to a limited number of top executives. Yeah, it'll happen.


18 posted on 04/21/2016 2:37:13 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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a lot of her points made sense, except nobody is "stealing" from the poor senior citizens...

the "senior" citizens have a bonanza of SS and defined pensions and Medicare that very few will ever have....

if my husbands elderly parents are typical, hundreds of thousands of dollars are spent looking for the cure for arthritic backs, constipation, poor sleep....they have the numerous Ct scans, Mri's, Phyisical therapies, home visits, and multiple drugs that essentially do the same thing....

and who pays?....well look at your paycheck....

19 posted on 04/21/2016 3:49:38 PM PDT by cherry
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