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Leftist Lies on the Decision to Bomb Hiroshima
Townhall.com ^ | June 3, 2016 | Steve Feinstein

Posted on 06/04/2016 7:40:03 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Blood of Tyrants
Liberals would have us believe that would have been better than ending the war with 2 A bombs.

As with everything else, Liberals can always invent hypotheticals that they insist must invalidate facts and reality.

21 posted on 06/05/2016 12:19:34 AM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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Military planners estimated that there would be upwards of 250,000 US soldiers killed and millions of Japanese killed in an invasion of Japan.

They actually expected up to 1,000,000 casualties.

500,000 Purple Hearts were ordered and manufactured in anticipation of the invasion. The remaining stock has been refurbished, and those medals were been used until at least until about 2008.

Only 34,000 medals have been ordered since 1976 -- 21,000 in 2008.

Are Purple Hearts from 1945 still being awarded?

22 posted on 06/05/2016 6:55:03 AM PDT by justlurking
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To: gaijin

The Yalta agreement required the Soviet Union to declare war and attack the Japanese with 90 days of the German surrender. Marshal Vasilevsky’s attack on the Japanese in Manchuria was launched on August 9th.


23 posted on 06/05/2016 12:45:03 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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Not “tens of thousands” - “tens of millions”.

One of the slogans in Japan during the war was “100 million to die for the Emperor” ... in a nation of only 70 million.


24 posted on 06/05/2016 3:52:10 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t know why some ninnies like to refight wars that are long over. Liberal idiots, I wish they’d all jump in a lake.


25 posted on 06/06/2016 12:34:13 AM PDT by Impy (Never Shillery)
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A timeline of the PTO is helpful in these arguments.

March 9-10, 1945: The U.S. incendiary raid on Tokyo burned 15 square miles of the city. Estimates of the death toll normally specify 100,000 killed and half the industry destroyed.

April 1, 1945: Allies invaded Okinawa.

May 8, 1945: Germany surrendered.

June, 1945: Preparation for Operation Downfall began in earnest. Downfall was the invasion of Japan. Fourteen divisions in Operation Olympic would attack Kyushu, which is not the main Japanese island, on November 1, 1945. Forty divisions of Operation Coronet would attack Tokyo in March of 1946. U.S. soldiers sent home from Europe went to camps in the U.S. where they prepared to invade Japan. My father was one of these soldiers.

June 22, 1945: The remaining Japanese forces on Okinawa surrendered to the Allies. The Allies lost 12,000 men killed. The common estimate of Japanese soldiers killed is 100,000. The civilian population of Okinawa was 300,000. Estimates of civilian deaths range between 40,000 and 150,000. Thousands of these people were executed by the Japanese or forced to commit suicide.

July 11, 1945: Japanese ambassador Naotake Sato met with the Soviets to try to negotiate peace. World War I ended with a negotiated peace. It led directly to World War II. Roosevelt and Truman were smart enough not to repeat that mistake.

July, 1945: Japan continued to arrest anyone who possessed one of the 63,000,000 leaflets dropped on their country that warned we would continue to bomb them until they surrendered.

August 6, 1945: The U.S. Army Air Force exploded a nuclear bomb over Hiroshima, Japan.

August 6, 1945: Despite the suggestion that Japan would surrender if the bomb exploded over an unpopulated island visible from Tokyo, Japan did not surrender when 80,000 people died at Hiroshima.

August 9, 1945: The U.S. Army Air Force exploded a nuclear bomb over Nagasaki, Japan.

August 9, 1945: Despite the suggestion that Japan would surrender if the bomb exploded over an unpopulated island visible from Tokyo, Japan did not surrender when an additional 60,000 people died at Nagasaki.

August 14, 1945: The Japanese war council agrees to surrender.

August 14, 1945: Kenji Hatanaka attempted a coup d'etat to prevent Hirohito from announcing surrender.

August 15, 1945: Emperor Hirohito announced the surrender to the Japanese people:

After pondering deeply the general trends of the world and the actual conditions obtaining in Our Empire today, We have decided to effect a settlement of the present situation by resorting to an extraordinary measure.

We have ordered Our Government to communicate to the Governments of the United States, Great Britain, China and the Soviet Union that Our Empire accepts the provisions of their Joint Declaration.

To strive for the common prosperity and happiness of all nations as well as the security and well-being of Our subjects is the solemn obligation which has been handed down by Our Imperial Ancestors and which lies close to Our heart.

Indeed, We declared war on America and Britain out of Our sincere desire to ensure Japan's self-preservation and the stabilization of East Asia, it being far from Our thought either to infringe upon the sovereignty of other nations or to embark upon territorial aggrandizement.

But now the war has lasted for nearly four years. Despite the best that has been done by everyone—the gallant fighting of the military and naval forces, the diligence and assiduity of Our servants of the State, and the devoted service of Our one hundred million people—the war situation has developed not necessarily to Japan's advantage, while the general trends of the world have all turned against her interest.

Moreover, the enemy has begun to employ a new and most cruel bomb, the power of which to do damage is, indeed, incalculable, taking the toll of many innocent lives. Should we continue to fight, not only would it result in an ultimate collapse and obliteration of the Japanese nation, but also it would lead to the total extinction of human civilization.

Hirohito said they surrendered because they got nuked.

He also said the war was because Japan wanted peace but not to take territory or interfere with sovereign states. They invaded Korea before the war, then they invaded China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Maraya, Borneo, Brunei, The Philippines, Indonesia, Singapore, Myanmar, East Timor, New Guinea, Guam, Nauru, Wake, Attu, Kiska, and Kiribati.

According to the emperor, they just didn't mean it. That rat should have been strung up right next to Tojo.

26 posted on 06/06/2016 9:08:54 AM PDT by sig226
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