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Archbishop Chaput's column: Some personal thoughts on the months ahead [Trump, Hillary equally bad.]
catholicphilly.com ^ | 12 Aug 2016 | Archbp. Charles Chaput

Posted on 08/13/2016 8:43:50 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan

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1 posted on 08/13/2016 8:43:50 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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This might be true but Trump is “bad” for invading foreign criminal freeloaders and refugihadis. Clintoon is “bad” for the American people so I guess you have to decide which group of people you care most about.


2 posted on 08/13/2016 8:47:55 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Let's Make Our Government and Founding Documents Great Again!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Let’s assume that Trump is as crooked as Hillary.

With the press and the government and all the 3 letter agencies hating him like they do he won’t be able to get away with .000001% of the stuff that the Billaries get away with.

That alone makes him a million times more desirable guarding the national assets and the American people.


3 posted on 08/13/2016 8:49:01 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Stopped reading at the end of paragraph three. This guy is an idiot... Emphasis added. What is strangely familiar is just how much of Catholicism monitors the haves and have nots... Never mind the means and methods of how any or all have or have not.
4 posted on 08/13/2016 8:49:29 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

US Catholic Bishops: Living the Gospel of Life:
http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/abortion/living-the-gospel-of-life.cfm

Priests for Life Study Guide to the above:
http://www.priestsforlife.org/gospel/studyguide/index.htm


5 posted on 08/13/2016 8:52:25 PM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Neither candidate is better than the other? Who is he fooling? Trump for limits on abortion, religious freedom, and re-vamped health care for all, and freedom from government control and subsidiarity. Hillary against or weaker on all? He is wrong.


6 posted on 08/13/2016 8:52:52 PM PDT by amihow (l8)
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To: Arthur McGowan

As a Catholic, I just don’t understand why someone with such a high position in the church, and all his influence, just fails to see the corruption from the Clintons and the democrat party. This is very disappointing.

CGato


7 posted on 08/13/2016 8:56:40 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Almost all of the Catholic bishops, including Chaput, are for unlimited importation of raping, murdering, tubercular illegal aliens, and Muslim warriors. Twenty-five percent of Mexico is now in the U.S. The bishops have never hinted that that’s a problem. Or that 50%, 75%, or 100% would be a problem. The bishops have never hinted that importing more Muslim warriors would be a problem. The bishops have never hinted that the death of 25 Americans each day at the hands of an illegal alien is a problem.

They don’t dare say such things. The wrath of Bergoglio would descend on them like fire and brimstone.

Immigrants vote about 70-80% pro-abortion. The Catholic bishops’ only response is to call for more immigrants.


8 posted on 08/13/2016 8:57:40 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Guess this Bishop also doesn’t give a hoot about life in the womb, marriage between a man and a women, and religious liberty. He needs to get back into the BOOK.


9 posted on 08/13/2016 9:03:25 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: Just mythoughts

I read the whole thing, and was going to try to point out a couple of the errors with scriptural references, but you summed it up: “This guy is an idiot.”


10 posted on 08/13/2016 9:04:29 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!e)
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To: amihow

Note his implication that anyone who is rich knows nothing about “the common people,” and cannot be trusted. That is pure class envy. Also a common trait of the kind of bishops Paul VI and John Paul II appointed.


11 posted on 08/13/2016 9:04:49 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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Pushing a moral equivalency between them is calumnious to Trump.
To place her demonstrable corruption throughout her adult life
side by side with a businessman who exhibits nothing comparable
is unChristian and untrue. Is the good archbishop an elitist like
Will & Weigel?
12 posted on 08/13/2016 9:05:01 PM PDT by jobim
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It sounds like Charlie Chaput considers abortion to be a minor issue, highlighting the old adage that the road to hell is paved with the skulls of bishops.


13 posted on 08/13/2016 9:08:51 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Arthur McGowan

https://www.amazon.com/Resurrecting-Idea-Christian-Society-Reno/dp/1621573494/ref=sr_1_1
“Resurrecting the Idea of a Christian Society” by R. R. Reno

https://www.amazon.com/Its-Dangerous-Believe-Religious-Freedom/dp/0062454013/ref=sr_1_1
“It’s Dangerous to Believe: Religious Freedom and Its Enemies” by Mary Eberstadt

https://www.amazon.com/Open-Letters-Selected-Writings-1965-1990/dp/0679738118
“Open Letters: Selected Writings, 1965-1990” Reprint Edition
by Vaclav Havel


14 posted on 08/13/2016 9:09:02 PM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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“Read it as thoughts from a brother in the faith, not as teachings from an archbishop.”

No problem.

freegards


15 posted on 08/13/2016 9:09:17 PM PDT by Ransomed
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". . . NEITHER IS CLEARLY BETTER THAN THE OTHER. [Emphasis added.] "

Now there's a bit of bearing false witness if I ever saw it. Well, it could be gross ignorance but if that's the case, this guy has no business being a bishop (but in JMHo, that's true of about 2/3 of US Bishops for one reason or another)

16 posted on 08/13/2016 9:14:48 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Ransomed

If a bishop uses his PROMINENCE and his diocesan newspaper, etc., to broadcast his PERSONAL OPINIONS, then he is abusing his office.

The only time a Catholic bishop should speak or write is when what he is saying MUST BE BELIEVED by all Catholics. In all other cases, he is abusing his office.


17 posted on 08/13/2016 9:17:54 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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problematic – that NEITHER IS CLEARLY BETTER THAN THE OTHER.

I stopped reading at this point. The author is obviously an idiot. I don't waste my time reading the opinions of leftists and other morons.

18 posted on 08/13/2016 9:18:55 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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Notice later, he says that anyone who DOES vote for Trump or Hillary is using “some strange calculus.”

I.e., another way to say that Trump and Hillary are EQUALLY EVIL.


19 posted on 08/13/2016 9:19:13 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Think he is Native American, and as many are, full of a class envy that affects his thoughts. I base that on his personal correspondences of which I have knowledge. Otherwise, he is smart and orthodox


20 posted on 08/13/2016 9:19:30 PM PDT by amihow (l8)
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