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The decline of US universities continues apace.
1 posted on 08/23/2016 12:46:26 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov

Time to do away with these positions.

After the union forms, it’s too late.

Just end those programs now.


2 posted on 08/23/2016 12:48:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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To: oblomov

When Richard F. Griffin, Jr. became General Counsel of the NLRB (despite the fact that Republicans had made concessions to Obama dependent upon his NOT being associated with the NLRB) he tried to ram card check through.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3085102/posts

Look for him to try to get this to happen via card check.


3 posted on 08/23/2016 12:50:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: oblomov

If part of the curriculum is that work for experience then a union would be daft.
I do know some PHD candidates are held for too long doing that though.


5 posted on 08/23/2016 12:53:03 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: oblomov

I had a friend who had his doctrine in Physics and was doing a student teaching at Penn State for room and board plus 18 thousand dollars while the Professor was getting over 200 thousand and not even teaching the once a month!


6 posted on 08/23/2016 12:53:13 PM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: oblomov

Makes sense to me. Grad students are way too often treated as free labor. Half the low end classes are taught by grad students. If you’re going to make somebody do the work eventually they’re going to want the recognition, pay and benefits.


11 posted on 08/23/2016 12:59:01 PM PDT by discostu (If you need to load or unload go to the white zone, you'll love it, it's a way of life)
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To: oblomov

Liberal universities are about to get a taste of their own medicine, eh? Good!!


12 posted on 08/23/2016 1:03:54 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: oblomov

If the students go on strike, do the teachers and maintenance personnel cross the picket line?


14 posted on 08/23/2016 1:24:20 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: oblomov
Leftists often adopt policies chock full of unintended consequences.

Taxpayer subsidized abortions cause the death by dismemberment of a full 40% of all black children conceived in this country. Planned Barrenhood has ALWAYS favored that result but think of all the chances dashed for the innocent victims to vote Demonrat.

Likewise, this stupidity will hasten the demise of generally leftist brick and mortar universities (the modern leftist equivalent of medieval castles) and their influence. Let us not be blinded by our distaste for unions if that is a result.

15 posted on 08/23/2016 1:30:31 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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Thank you for referencing that article oblomov. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

”… will be allowed to vote to unionize under a ruling Tuesday by the National Labor Relations Board that found that they are employees under federal labor law [emphasis added]."

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Patriots beware!

Regardless what FDR’s state sovereignty-ignoring, activist justices wanted everybody to think about the scope of Congress’s Commerce Clause powers (1.8.3), the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate INTRAstate labor. This is evidenced by the following excerpts by previous generations of state sovereignty-respecting justices.

In fact, note that even if the states had expressly constitutionally delegated such power to Congress that the Founding States made the Constitution’s Sections 1-3 of Artcle I to clarify that all federal regulatory / legislative powers are vested in the elected members of Congress, not in the executive or judicial branches, or in faceless, non-elected bureaucrats such as those running the NLRB or the EPA as examples. So Congress has a constitutional monopoly on federal legislative powers whether it wants it or not.

But by letting federal officials outside the legislative branch get away with stealing and using legislative branch powers, powers that the states have never delgated to Congress in this case, corrupt lawmakers are not only blatantly ignoring Sections 1-3 mentioned above, but they are also letting federal bureaucrats do their unpopular, unconstitutional legislative work for them.

In other words, by letting outsiders do their dirty work for them, crook lawmakers are able to keep their voting records clean, arguably to fool low-information patriots into reelecting them.

Remember in November !

Patriots need to support Trump / Pence by also electing a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will not only work within its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to support Trump’s vision for making America great again for everybody, but will put a stop to unconstitutonal federal taxes and likewise unconstitutional inteference in state affairs.

Note that such a Congress will also probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.

17 posted on 08/23/2016 1:37:51 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: oblomov

Good. Professors by and large espouse and endorse unions but don’t have to deal with them. Let’s see what happens to that support when they have to deal with unions up close and personal.


19 posted on 08/23/2016 1:38:59 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: oblomov

OH PLEASE let them form a union. I LOVE seeing progressives eat progressives.


21 posted on 08/23/2016 1:49:40 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Hillary Clinton, the elderly woman's version of "I dindu nuffins.")
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To: oblomov

So when students can’t afford the university’s graduate school education because the university no longer offers teaching and research assistant positions to offset tuition, tey will have this group to thank.


23 posted on 08/23/2016 1:52:22 PM PDT by EDINVA
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Our son was a TA while earning his Graduate Degree. They provided him with a small stipend, but free tuition, so his Grad degree was essentially “free.” (he lived at home and commuted the 20 miles to the University.)

He had to put in 16 hours a week as a TA for a prof.
So he worked 3 days at his “regular” job, worked 2 days for the Prof, went to classes 3 nights a week 6-9, and fit his studying into spare bits of time.

If you worked out the pay per hour, it was probably around $25 an hour. What kid with a just a bachelor’s is starting out getting $25 an hour, so why unionize. Plus it looks great on your resume as your first job.


24 posted on 08/23/2016 1:52:26 PM PDT by Dawn53Fl
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To: oblomov

Let them unionize.

College professors are constantly lecturing us on how the under class is abused by the greedy capitalist system.

Let’s see what happens when these professors discover they are that system.


25 posted on 08/23/2016 1:53:13 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: oblomov

Hire adjuncts instead.


31 posted on 08/23/2016 4:49:32 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Waiting for inspirations)
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To: oblomov; Behind Liberal Lines

Columbia was already a hotbed of cultural Marxists, so as far as I am concerned, it couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch. Hopefully grad students at Cornell and Ithaca will organize next. Let their collective (in multiple senses of the word) administrations deal with the conundrum of being hated, evil Management.


34 posted on 08/23/2016 8:55:55 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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A union could act as the only shield that graduate students have against the vile and corrupt system that allows tenured professors to terrorize everyone on campus.

Think about it for a second.

If you were in graduate school today, and you had to answer to the jerk-offs that are tenured professors...

Wouldn’t you want some kind of support structure in place to watch your back?


36 posted on 08/23/2016 10:04:06 PM PDT by Prole
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I am a graduate student TA at a private university. I don’t think this will affect me as I only have a year left in my degree. I support collective bargaining rights for the TA’s if only because the entire university is so bloated with non-teaching staff (e.g. “Vice Provost for Social Media Engagement”) who get all the goodies and we don’t even get a staff discount in the cafeteria. However, I think students and parents are all getting wise to the farce of higher education and pursuing other options to the traditional 4-years at an expensive school like mine that is using TA’s and adjuncts as the normal instructors. For that you’re better off going to community college.


37 posted on 08/24/2016 6:19:47 AM PDT by tellw
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