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Is Hillary Clinton's ‘win’ in the eye of beholder?
The Boston Herald ^ | September 28, 2016 | Chris Cassidy

Posted on 09/27/2016 10:30:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary Clinton has been declared the winner of the most watched debate ever by the bulk of the media, but they may be once again demonstrating their failure to understand what makes Donald Trump voters tick — and why his fans think he came out on top, according to political analysts.

“Clinton and Trump are talking to two very different countries, and political analysts and reporters are generally in the country Clinton, not Trump, inhabits.” wrote Larry Sabato, the author of Sabato’s Crystal Ball and a political science professor at the University of Virginia.

Sabato, elaborating in comments to the Herald, pointed to a “startling divide” between college-educated and non-college-educated voters. Clinton leads with white college grads — a first for a Democrat in modern times, said Sabato. Yet Trump has an “enormous majority” among blue-collar workers, particularly men, he added....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; debate; debates; elites; hilary; hillary; media; msm; polls; trump
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To: Kickass Conservative

She makes money selling state secrets and government favors.


21 posted on 09/28/2016 12:33:10 AM PDT by jazminerose (oective)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In terms of a forensic debate HRC won a split decision. In terms of dispelling an impending health crisis, also a split card for HRC.

However in what matters to ordinary Americans, Trump addressed those issues. Though DT suffered lost opportunities to destroy Hillary, I feel he did well as not to come across as spiteful or vile.

Trump needs to take advantage of lessons learned going forward and simply stay on message.

22 posted on 09/28/2016 1:05:38 AM PDT by buckalfa (I am deplorable.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

The problem they refuse to see is right in front of them. It ain’t about Trump. It never has been.

An objective observer would wonder how they missed that after successfully foisting 0bama on us.


23 posted on 09/28/2016 1:13:13 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

Alan, agree. You wonder why Trump didn’t take advantage of some openers to attack Clinton.

But I think he was wisely coached to back off a bit. The media has been portraying Trump as an mean ogre. So he had to show his presidential side. Showing too much attack dog might have backfired.

Anyway, there are two more debates, plenty of time to get to the Hillary corruption issues.


24 posted on 09/28/2016 1:35:48 AM PDT by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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To: poconopundit

The media has been portraying Trump as an mean ogre. So he had to show his presidential side. Showing too much attack dog might have backfired.

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Of course it would have backfired, and BIG TIME!! People here and elsewhere need to understand the difference between strategic and tactical planning.


25 posted on 09/28/2016 1:50:10 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Clinton leads with white college grads

I call bullshit!

Oh, and has this idiot Sabato ever been right about anything?

26 posted on 09/28/2016 2:43:39 AM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim president!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yep.


27 posted on 09/28/2016 2:56:53 AM PDT by Salamander (More deplorable than deplorable...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She was a total bitch Monday night. That was all she showed. Hard to see how even her supporters couldn’t pick that up.


28 posted on 09/28/2016 3:21:46 AM PDT by uncitizen (JFK: The first victim of the New World Order)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
To the leftist media:


29 posted on 09/28/2016 3:34:57 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She needs 93% or the black vote to win. She’ll be lucky to get 75%.


30 posted on 09/28/2016 4:07:06 AM PDT by petercooper (Make America Normal Again!)
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To: Impy
Presidential debates are scored much different than classical debates. You score a Presidential debate in the week following it- who has the better spin doctors, what back-stories and fact-checks come out afterwards, and who made a better emotional connection is much more important than any "gotcha" points.

My first impression of the debate was that Hillary won on points, but that Donald Trump didn't do anything to ruin his Presidency.

What we've found out is that Hillary was fed questions and that Lester Holt was more intent on getting invited back to summers in the Hamptons rather than that Racist, Sexist, Homophobic "Journalist Integrity". We saw that Donald Trump actually took the fight to Hillary (Jeb would've been curled up in a fetal ball whimpering).

for the next two debates, Trump is only going to get better. I'm sure he'll see where he could've done better (mentioning Benghazi, the women Hillary has destroyed, and further attacking her lack of stamina).

Scott Adams may be right. He predicted Trump winning 65-35.

31 posted on 09/28/2016 4:37:59 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Approximately 5 million votes in online polls Trump averaging 70% just 11% trust her and 34% think she is healthy enough to be president and the media tells us she won and will win in November?


32 posted on 09/28/2016 4:58:35 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The fact is, Clinton drew fewer than 400 people at a rally, the day after her “big win.” Trump drew about 25,000 the day after his “big loss.” I’m sure the media are going to be all over the vast difference in rallies. My bet is that Trump’s two rallies today, in Iowa and Wisconsin, are also going to be larger than usual, and all his rallies from here on out will continue to grow.


33 posted on 09/28/2016 5:14:10 AM PDT by euram
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She said all Americans are racists.

That should cause a surge in her support. Unless someone reminds them that only white people can be racists.

/s

34 posted on 09/28/2016 5:45:47 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She said all Americans are racists.

That should cause a surge in her support. Unless someone reminds them that only white people can be racists.

/s

35 posted on 09/28/2016 5:45:47 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: PrayAndVoteConservesInLibsOut

Yes, I agree the debate was so unfairly moderated against Trump. And he should call it out to the American people directly.

And actually, I think he should simply IGNORE all questions the moderator asks and say what he wants to.

TRUMP: “First, before answering your biased questions, I’m going to address the items I feel are more important that the American people should know.” Then he simply doesn’t finish what he’s saying in time to answer the moderator’s question.

That would be true Trump flippant attitude.


36 posted on 09/28/2016 10:05:32 AM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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