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Pressure is building for Germany to show it's ready to rescue Deutsche Bank
CNBC ^ | 29 Sep 16 | Jef Cox

Posted on 09/29/2016 3:56:36 PM PDT by SkyPilot

German officials could be about to find themselves in an uncomfortable position: Being called on to show they're ready to rescue a bank in a part of the world where such operations are considered taboo.

Deutsche Bank came under intensified market fire Thursday, the latest salvo being a Bloomberg report that a small number of hedge funds are trimming their sails at the German bank.

In a broad perspective, the move would represent a minor dent in Deutsche's derivatives clearing business. Barry Bausano, chairman of Deutsche's hedge fund business, told CNBC on Thursday that while there have been some outflows, there have also been inflows, which he said is "part of the typical ebbs and flows" of the prime brokerage business.

But at a time when investors are fearing what the future holds for the highly leveraged institution, such news is enough to cause ripples. Shares tumbled more than 7 percent in mid-afternoon trading. The plunge took the broader market down as well.

Consequently, market talk intensified that it's becoming time for the German government step in and assure investors that it will be at the ready to stabilize both Deutsche and the broader system — much along the lines of what U.S. officials had to do during the 2008 financial crisis.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banking; banks; collapse; deutschebank; ecb; eucrisis; europecrisis; finance; germany; markets; stockmarket
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Watch the 2 minute video at the link as well.

Chilling.

Reader's Digest version:

- Deutche Bank has 163 Billion in debts (that we know of) and 16 Billion in public equity

- Market is pushing politicians (as they did in 2008) to break them and have governments bail them out

- There is no "anti-Lehman Brothers" mechanism to solve this; and DB is a landmine that could cause a global economic explosion

1 posted on 09/29/2016 3:56:37 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot; All

“...and DB is a landmine that could cause a global economic explosion...”

Yes. Yes they can!

Does Germany HAVE this kind of cash to even GIVE them? Their economy appears to be basically propping up all sorts of undesirables that they’ve INVITED into their country under the guise of ‘workers’ as the Germans have stopped reproducing themselves in meaningful numbers.

What gives?


2 posted on 09/29/2016 4:00:33 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The German government can't wipe out the core debt, and I agree, they don't have the funds.

Things have not imploded yet, but people are very, very, very nervous.

Dow closes down triple digits after Deutsche Bank hits all-time low

But things could go south...quickly.

3 posted on 09/29/2016 4:06:28 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot
They don't have to wipe out the core debt. They will just refinance and extend the debt limit and continue to be able to collect the interest. That's how it works.

Which means that money will be printed out of thin air and there will be backdoor inflation even though all the indices will indicate there is no inflation.

Just like here, in the States.

4 posted on 09/29/2016 4:12:42 PM PDT by Parmy (II don't know how to past the images.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Does Germany have The cash ?

Current Account Surplus
Nil gov’t debt
Nil private Debt
massive savings

answer - yes


5 posted on 09/29/2016 4:19:11 PM PDT by vooch
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To: SkyPilot

As soon as Germany does that the rest of the EU will be with their hands out.


6 posted on 09/29/2016 4:20:03 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: SkyPilot

Is this the, ‘Black Swan’ we’ve been waiting for? Been reading about it, today.

PLEASE let it hit before Election Day! ;)

https://www.rt.com/business/360917-deutsche-bank-lehman-crisis/


7 posted on 09/29/2016 4:20:53 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Travis McGee

Ping.


8 posted on 09/29/2016 4:21:45 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: SkyPilot

9 posted on 09/29/2016 4:27:09 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Vote Trump. Defeat the Clinton Crime Syndicate. Reset America.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Two-pronged attack:

a) Flood Germany with ISIS terrorists

b) BANKRUPT THEM with bank bailouts

That's what Germany gets for being a majority Caucasian country!

10 posted on 09/29/2016 4:38:54 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: SkyPilot

Does this mean they want they’re gold back?


11 posted on 09/29/2016 5:10:15 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: SkyPilot

I suspect there will be a run on lead, as they need to electroplate lead ingots with gold.


12 posted on 09/29/2016 5:13:23 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Does China have this kind of cash...and are they interested.


13 posted on 09/29/2016 5:13:59 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: Parmy
Why printing money won't work for Europe
14 posted on 09/29/2016 5:31:19 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Two-pronged attack: a) Flood Germany with ISIS terrorists b) BANKRUPT THEM with bank bailouts


15 posted on 09/29/2016 5:34:52 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Fitzy_888
The Germans already took a lot of their gold back.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-27/germany-has-repatriated-over-366-tonnes-gold-new-york-and-paris

The US gold?

There are lots of reports that ours is already gone.

When TSHTF, they will confiscate citizen's gold....again.

16 posted on 09/29/2016 5:36:36 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: TADSLOS
Just read this from today:

The Run Begins: Deutsche Bank Hedge Fund Clients Withdraw Excess Cash

17 posted on 09/29/2016 5:38:04 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SaveFerris

The DB derivative exposure, if it blows, will take the global financial system with it.


18 posted on 09/29/2016 5:40:00 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
From and earlier thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3474892/posts?page=15#15

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3474892/posts?page=26#26

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3474892/posts?page=27#27

19 posted on 09/29/2016 5:43:05 PM PDT by Chgogal (A woman who votes for Hillary is voting with her vagina and not her brain.)
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To: SkyPilot

Right. Germany does not as country have anywhere close to enough cash to wipe out the debt of this bank. At best they can only kick the can.

“If you think Germany can bail out Deutsche Bank you’re delusional. Their total derivative exposure grossly exceeds the entire net value of everything in Germany! Not just the government’s resources, all private resources as well! In other words even if the government wanted to bail them out, even if they’d survive bailing them out politically they can’t, even if they attempted to confiscate everything of value within the nation.”

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231518

More:

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231521


20 posted on 09/29/2016 5:49:27 PM PDT by Revel
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