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The Regimes “Cyber Action Against Russia” isn’t about Russia
opinion | 10-15-2016 | ShivaFan

Posted on 10/15/2016 12:47:15 PM PDT by ShivaFan

The OBAMA-CLINTON-BUSH plans for an “unprecedented cyber covert action against Russia in retaliation for alleged Russian interference in the American presidential election” has nothing to do with “Russia”.

There is an entire movement, sometimes called advocates for “Open Docs”, or “Full Disclosure” and advocates of open access to public information, around the philosophy that all political donations including those currently illegally practiced but not disclosed, all donations to so-called “foundations” and “charities” linked to politicians and those in political power and office, all meetings between government officials and lobby based organizations or lawyers or corporations or private interests or foreign interests and especially any of those which are requesting access in return for favors or for that matter any advocacy for their own private or foreign interests, and of course any such meetings in which exchanges of money or “donations” or items of value, must be fully documented, recorded both in audio and video and on paper, and fully available and disclosed to the public as freedom of information so as to prevent crony capitalism and special interests and foreign entities influencing the government class and their unelected bureaucrats and to prevent collusions between the government class and private, globalist, foreign interests in pay for play or profitable influence peddling and monetary exchange.

These advocates for “Open Docs”, “Public Freedom of Information” and “Full Disclosure” come from both sides of the spectrum, left or right or in the middle. They also advocate that if the government class is not, and will not, be open and disclose such information to the public which they claim they serve, than it is fair game to discover such information including hacking such information from corrupt government and political agents who are often actually agents of foreign governments or are in corrupt collusion with the corporate media.

Have what you will with your personal feelings about such detective work by advocates for the citizenry to their right to know, most of these are not “Russia” even if Russia was one of the six nations which hacked Hillary Clinton’s private servers and “smart” phones because she is a computer illiterate.

The real purpose of cyber covert action against Russia is not to target Russia, but to target any advocacy of Open Docs and such organizations and persons and to attack the free media that is not part of corporate power structure media in full collusion with a regime, claim they are “Russians” and then hack them, attack them, character assassinate them, threaten their families while data mining them, silence them, criminalize them, and kill them. As well as their families.

For example, they want to hack and criminalize and kill anyone involved with Wikileaks to stop the message and the revelations because it exposes their corruptions, collusion, including with foreign governments and their agents and with corporate and industrial and globalist agents and with corporate media. This is not about stopping foreign influence in elections, it is about continuing and hiding from the public foreign influence in elections as well hiding crony capitalist agendas and influence in the elections by exterminating anyone and anything that exposes their government class collusion with foreign agents and corporate interests, using cyber intelligence to use this intelligence to exterminate any such advocacy and advocates of full disclosure to the public.

For example, they will say Michael Savage is a Russian agent. They will build a case to have him imprisoned. They will say Julian Assange is “Russia”. They will get the information so they can kill him with a drone or by any means necessary so the government class can continue their collusion with foreign governments and agents including Russia if they think it is in their empowerment to do so.

It is like “Fast and Furious”. Take a so-called “legitimate” operation and then purposely put guns in the hands of Mexican cartel in order to say, “see, guns from gun dealers in the US are getting in the hands of the Mexican cartel so we need to take away the citizen’s Second Amendment rights”…

This is nothing to do with Russia. It is about a cyber attack on all of us. We will all soon be surprised to find out that we are “Russia”. Which is convenient also, since the regime wants to go to war with Russia, besides. It does not matter if you are left or right, or in the middle. If you believe in full disclosure for whatever is your politics, you will be declared “Russian” and then the cyber intelligence will be used to plan your total destruction, that of your family, implement this assassination, destruction or death sentence.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cyber; regime; russia
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1 posted on 10/15/2016 12:47:15 PM PDT by ShivaFan
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To: ShivaFan
just pizzed cause they got doxed and the truth came out
2 posted on 10/15/2016 12:52:07 PM PDT by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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To: ShivaFan

I have never believed it was Russia. Good post.


3 posted on 10/15/2016 12:54:44 PM PDT by ColdOne ((poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Because you'd be in jail!)
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Lemmie think about this.

The NSA and other government agencies, in spite of laws and rules that say they shouldn't, collect every bit of cyber anything any American Citizen produces. The store it long term to sift through just in case what is politically correct today isn't tomorrow and they can then come down on you like a ton of bricks. No warrants, individuals are not permitted to know what they've collected and retained about them, and no Executive Branch or Legislative Branch effort to reign them in other than now and then a dog and pony show the Uniparty media can chatter about poo pooing the concerns of average folks.

Someone collects and makes public information about the corrupt democrat fascists and their globalist allies, and there's an immediate need to do everything possible to start a major, possibly nuclear, war in response to such a threat to the privacy of the Nobility.

You know, I think you're right, this isn't about Russia.

4 posted on 10/15/2016 12:55:42 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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Uh...my “crazy” theory is to blame Russia for creating an unfair, hacked election (remember Jeh, “my chin is in the air”, Johnson) to cancel the election whereby blaming Russia.

I’ll toss in that 0bummer and his commie Sor0s gang, will end Hitlery’s run kinda like Scalia. Yeah, I just said that.


5 posted on 10/15/2016 12:55:54 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Without protecting the 4 boxes, we don't have the republic.)
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Its ll about the narritive that the media will report
Do you beleive that Obozo finally got a spine ?
or is it that he wants to appear as an international leader ?
only 90 Some odd days to go before he has to ay for his own vacations !
6 posted on 10/15/2016 12:55:54 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ("Everything HRC touches she kind of screws up with hubris.”- Colin Powell)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

” Its ll about the narritive “ = it All about the naritive ..


7 posted on 10/15/2016 12:57:18 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ("Everything HRC touches she kind of screws up with hubris.”- Colin Powell)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Dang fat fingers ..!!


8 posted on 10/15/2016 12:58:03 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ("Everything HRC touches she kind of screws up with hubris.”- Colin Powell)
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To: ShivaFan

Great post. Vishnu preserve us.


9 posted on 10/15/2016 12:59:19 PM PDT by kallisti (fall mountains, just don't fall on me (JH))
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To: Rashputin

This isn’t about Russia. If they can disrupt the Internet, they can stem the leaks and blame it all on Russia. Two birds with one stone.


10 posted on 10/15/2016 1:00:18 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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To: ShivaFan

WOW! Thanks for posting.


11 posted on 10/15/2016 1:02:14 PM PDT by awaken2spirit (When one fornicates with ignorance, the result of that union is chaos.)
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To: ShivaFan
Where's all of the liberal outrage about war-monger Obama announcing his unprovoked cyber war against Russia which could turn into WW3 Armageddon within minutes?
12 posted on 10/15/2016 1:26:46 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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That sure fits in with 0bonerboy's desire to control who can say what on the internet...

Anti-American Traitor Obama Talks Internet Censorship After Ceding US Control to ICANN

13 posted on 10/15/2016 1:33:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (~Questionable Hillary thinks Putin made me post this!~)
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1. It ain’t “covert” if you announce it beforehand...
2. When you announce something like this, don’t be surprised if you get blamed for something you didn’t actually do.

Sheesh! Who put these knuckleheads in charge?


14 posted on 10/15/2016 1:42:03 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: ShivaFan; Arthur Wildfire! March
Good post. The US govt has plenty of tax money to spend on targeted insecurity. The Chinese mainly have to keep producing their endless stream of insecure crap. With back doors and plain old poor design their devices are easy to take over later. E.g. the millions of internet cameras that are taken over for DDOS attacks. The Russians are freeloading and probably the least of our worries.

In some sense the main cyber combatants are on the same side, and it isn't our side. We have very little security available to us: various insecure operating systems larded up with crapware giving hackers a large attack surface. Unless you load your own stripped down linux or root your android phone you are pretty much a sitting duck. The only safety we have is our insignificance, nobody cares enough about most of us to bother attacking. It will get worse.

15 posted on 10/15/2016 5:07:18 PM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: ShivaFan

Insightful post.


16 posted on 10/15/2016 6:49:47 PM PDT by odds
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17 posted on 10/15/2016 6:52:23 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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11,000 plus emails and not one American aboard is outed, arrested, or put on show trial.

If the Russian could out our people they would. We’d do it to them!

So, who would take such care? (A patriot.)

Who could so carefully sort hundreds of thousands of emails? (There’s more than one.)


18 posted on 10/15/2016 8:43:40 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: ShivaFan; palmer

Nailed it:

“This is not about stopping foreign influence in elections, it is about continuing and hiding from the public foreign influence in elections as well hiding crony capitalist agendas and influence in the elections by exterminating anyone and anything that exposes their government class collusion with foreign agents and corporate interests, using cyber intelligence to use this intelligence to exterminate any such advocacy and advocates of full disclosure to the public.” — ShivaFan


19 posted on 10/16/2016 4:57:18 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: ShivaFan; palmer

If the only thing a US cyber-attack by Obama against Russia achieves is shutting down wikileaks or possibly loading it with false accusations against Hillary [to discredit it], then that’s not a genuine military action but rather the equivilent of facist ‘book burning’.


20 posted on 10/16/2016 5:00:53 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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