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The EU might be one step closer to having its own army as it backs a new defence plan
Business Insider / AFP ^ | 11/15/16 | Bryan McManus

Posted on 11/15/2016 6:04:03 PM PST by markomalley

EU ministers approved a common defence plan on Monday despite sharp differences over how far it should go, as Donald Trump's election win stoked fears about Washington's commitment to European security.

Trump's campaign threat to think twice about defending NATO allies unless they up their defence spending has driven calls for the European Union to press ahead on its own, despite objections from Britain.

EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini insisted the plans — to boost the bloc's ability to respond to external conflicts, help partner countries build their defence capabilities and protect EU citizens — would not undermine NATO.

"It's not about a European army, it's not about creating a new European Union SHAPE-style headquarters," Mogherini said after talks with foreign and defence ministers in Brussels, referring to NATO's own military HQ.

Britain has long opposed any such moves as undermining NATO, but after its shock June Brexit vote, France and Germany jumped in with plans to boost defence cooperation that have now gained extra urgency with Trump's election victory.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: angelamerkel; antonioguterres; brexit; emmanuelmacron; eu; euarmy; europeanunion; euroskepticism; federicamogherini; france; germany; macron; nato; theresamay; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 11/15/2016 6:04:03 PM PST by markomalley
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The EU cannot defend their own women from gang rapes
daily, but want to attack other nations.


2 posted on 11/15/2016 6:05:43 PM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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Instead of marching, they’ll prance.


3 posted on 11/15/2016 6:05:46 PM PST by Defiant (The media is the colostomy bag where truth goes after democrats digest it.)
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Why should we defend them? They always seem to trash us.


4 posted on 11/15/2016 6:06:59 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: markomalley

the final Nazi conquering of Europe, just more cleverly done


5 posted on 11/15/2016 6:07:21 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: markomalley

Trump is fixing problems long before he becomes president.

Imagine what he can get done when he has authority and power.


6 posted on 11/15/2016 6:07:33 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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A E.U. standing army will conflict with ours in time.

Europe is teetering. It can’t pull it’s head out long enough to see that it is falling to Islam. So as the E.U. becomes more precarious, that standing army will be controlled by whom? Islam or sympathizers with it.

We should not be gleeful about this.

I hope an accommodation will be found so that Europe take a pass on this, and ups it’s contributions without going that far.


7 posted on 11/15/2016 6:07:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The morning and the evening were the election day. People voted. The Lord saw, and it was good.)
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They can’t even fully fund their NATO obligations or their own military necessities. Who thinks another ineffectual layer of EU blue helmets is going to improve anything?


8 posted on 11/15/2016 6:08:29 PM PST by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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this will scare off Russia and ISIS!

9 posted on 11/15/2016 6:08:31 PM PST by ari-freedom (The Social Justice War is over and we won!)
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10 posted on 11/15/2016 6:09:12 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Defiant

Instead of marching, they’ll prance.

I am also wondering how much of this army is made up of muzzies.


11 posted on 11/15/2016 6:09:25 PM PST by boycott (S)
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They might make the UN Blue Helmets look like the 300.


12 posted on 11/15/2016 6:11:35 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day")
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To: boycott; Defiant

13 posted on 11/15/2016 6:16:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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All the EU countries have signed the ‘additional protocols’.

Those protocols were specifically designed to ensure the signatories couldn’t possibly win a war.

The EU can waste all the money they want on an army. It’ll never be anything other than an undeployable budget sink.


14 posted on 11/15/2016 6:19:22 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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Europe is seeing the handwriting on the wall regarding their NATA free ride coming to and end: Trump’s foreign policies are starting to work already.


15 posted on 11/15/2016 6:29:57 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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and they pay for it, how?


16 posted on 11/15/2016 6:30:23 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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“Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia.”


17 posted on 11/15/2016 6:35:44 PM PST by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: markomalley

Let me guess: they recruit refugees to fill the ranks.


18 posted on 11/15/2016 7:19:49 PM PST by polymuser (Enough is enough!)
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To: boycott

Our Civil War reenactors could defeat them easily, with a Chicago street gang as backup.


19 posted on 11/15/2016 7:25:44 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day")
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Most can’t pay their share of NATO. How can they support an EU army??


20 posted on 11/15/2016 7:50:45 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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