Posted on 12/01/2016 7:56:25 AM PST by Kaslin
Instead of outlawing flag burning, maybe we should amend the constitution to prohibit the prosecution of anyone who does violence to someone for burning the flag.
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Now we’re talking. When I see it, intellectualizing the situation isn’t my 1st reaction. Thank God I’ve never seen anyone do that in person. I’m not sure my usual restraint—”bite the inside of my cheek and remind myself that there are those that rely on me not being in jail”— would hold.
I can see the states lining up now to vote for ratification. You made me mad, I get to hit you. Good deal, kind of simple like pre-school.
Just not that one. It's the redneck ethnic flag.
“If one attempts to destroy the only hope of the world, how is that different from shouting “fire” in a crowded theater, other than that the timeline is years vrs seconds?”
An excellent point.
And a short history of the American Flag here:
http://www.usa-flag-site.org/history/
Interesting info on congressional action and executive orders regarding the flag.
Thank you for sharing the link to the story.
Reader’s Digest puts out some good ones every so often.
“You made me mad, I get to hit you.”
And how is that different from executing murderers? It doesn’t bring the murdered back to life. It doesn’t heal the grief of the living.
“Good deal, kind of simple like pre-school.”
Of wisdom I may have little, but I have learned that the road to wisdom leads from the simplicity of ignorance through the complexity of too much misunderstood information, then back to the uncluttered vistas of simplicity as misunderstandings are jettisoned.
The difference is excuting a murderer is because the murderer killed someone. And the flag burner just put your panties in a wad.
“The difference is excuting a murderer is because the murderer killed someone. And the flag burner just put your panties in a wad.”
You realize that’s an argument for a lesser punishment, but not for decriminalization, right?
Despite your use of a common DLDT (dishonest liberal debate tactic) it is not only I who object to flag burning. Millions of Americans share my position, and that should place this conduct in the same category with shouting “Fire.”
This conduct is so egregiously scurrilous that it is unreasonable to expect decent people to remain patient and tolerant, just as it is unreasonable to expect people in a crowded theater to remain calm when faced with the danger of burning to death.
u don’t seem tom understand it is NOT an argument for a lesser punishment. It is the distinction between harming another person and not harming a person. Burning a flag might piss you off, but it does no harm to your person or property unless the flag is stocking out of your gas tank.
You are proposing the government give license to physically attack another person even hough it is not self defense.
You can shout fire if you want and there is a fire. If you mean in a crowded theatre, it is not analogous to flag burning since in one case you are warning people to safe their lives and in the other you are just throwing a temper tantrum.
Just because you are not understanding doesn’t make me a liberal. It is a cheap desperate attempt to win an unsinkable argument. If you want to add further attack, send me to DU or one of the other sites. that’s what the real faux-bullies try to do when they lose and argument.
“u don’t seem tom understand it is NOT an argument for a lesser punishment.”
The word is spelled “you.” How young are you, anyway?
“It is the distinction between harming another person and not harming a person. Burning a flag might piss you off, but it does no harm to your person or property unless the flag is stocking out of your gas tank.”
That’s the fundamental error that leads people into libertarianism: the failure (or refusal) to think things through far enough to see the harm done.
I guess you’re probably not old enough to remember America before all this crap metastasized in the 1960s, Flag burning is one more tactic in the degradation of American culture, of the effort to turn Americans into self-hating Obama voters, and it had its effects.
It is not difficult to identify the tactics of the left, or to see their effects. Every one of these tactics is defended not just by the left, but by the tendentiously even-handed—people like you, and even some to the right of you, who are unable to make the connection between action and reaction.
“You are proposing the government give license to physically attack another person even hough it is not self defense.”
Any measure taken against the left is self-defense on a national scale. The constitution is not a suicide pact.
“If you mean in a crowded theatre, it is not analogous to flag burning since in one case you are warning people to safe their lives and in the other you are just throwing a temper tantrum.”
Nonsense. In the case of flag burning, you are attempting to prevent the destruction of the only hope of the world.
“Just because you are not understanding doesn’t make me a liberal. It is a cheap desperate attempt”
Blah, blah, blah. I didn’t say you were a liberal. I said you used a DLDT, and you did: you implied that I am the only person in the world who holds my opinion, while you speak for some “us” and “we,” which apparently includes all decent people.
Awesome ideas.....until now...until Trump gave us our voice back, we could never execute the counter-strategies that you have outlined!
Instead of trying to convert a hopeless case like me, go ahead with your amendment. I’ll follow your progress in the news.
Hmmm. I think it would be a good time to invest in a flag factory. Profits should be going through the roof.
Those of us who are conservative are proudly flying it again. The liberal morons are rushing out to buy and burn them.
A win-win for capitalism.
“Instead of trying to convert a hopeless case like me”
Even a red-diaper baby like David Horowitz finally got his head on straight. With God all things are possible.
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