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WH Defends Israeli Vote Move: Threatens Two-State Solution in Region
Newsmax ^ | 23 December 2016 | Tod Beamon

Posted on 12/26/2016 11:27:09 AM PST by Cold War Veteran - Submarines

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To: BenLurkin
The League of Nations established The British Mandate for Palestine. Shortly afterward, in September 1922, the League of Nations and Great Britain decided that the provisions for setting up a Jewish national home would not apply to the area east of the Jordan River, which constituted three-fourths of the territory included in the Mandate, and which eventually became the Hashemite Kingdom of Trans-Jordan.

All Jewish settlers were forced west of the Jordan, and told that the sections west of the Jordan was meant for Jewish settlement. Many of these settlers had been in the area since the 1800’s. At that point the Palestinian Mandate was split into two states with the creation of Trans-Jordan.

So two states were created, one officially giving a Saudi Prince rule over Trans-Jordan. What was left was to be a home for a Jewish nation.

The British, instead of announcing the rest of the area to be Jewish let everything slid, because of continual threats by Arabs states, some of which they themselves had help create out of the Ottoman Empire, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia. Strange how they could never live up to the requirements until 1948, and then only when they abandoned their responsibilities and withdrew.

At that point the Arab League attacked and Tran-Jordan occupied what is call The West Bank. They were Occupiers of what was intended to be part of the Jewish National Homeland. Trans-Jordan then renamed themselves “Jordan”, because Tran-Jordan meant across the Jordan Rive not both sides. They also gave Jordanian citizenship to all Arabs living in the West Bank area.

Since 1922 there has been two states, and from 1948 until 1967, Jordan illegally occupied part of the second state (The West Bank). The rest of the nations did not recognize their annexation of the West Bank as part of Jordan. Jordan now no longer claims it, and proclaims that they support the creation of a third state (which they want to proclaim as a Palestinian state).

The strangest thing about the situation is that until 1967, and the 6 Day War, Arabs in the West Bank called themselves “Arabs”. The only people know as “Palestinians” were the Jewish settlers during the 19th century up until the nation of Israel was established. They never claimed a “Palestinian Identity”.

So, no problem with a two state solution, as long as all areas of the Palestinian Mandate not split off to create Tran-Jordan belong to Israel. This would be the historical area of Israel including Judah and Samaria, which have historically been Israeli territories.

Jewish descendants of Israel have lived in Jerusalem and the area surrounding the city for over three thousand years. Jerusalem is, and has for three thousand years been Jerusalem DC (David's Capital). The Muslim World at heart, believes that Israel has no right to exist, because once conquer an area is always considered Muslim from that point on. In their minds Spain, part of France, Greece, Bulgaria, Croatia, parts of Romania belong to Islam (their World of Peace). All other areas of the world are up for grabs.

21 posted on 12/26/2016 1:59:27 PM PST by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: BenLurkin

...Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes saying that the continued activity threatened longstanding U.S. policy...

If U.S. policy was in danger why would we depend on the
UN.to do something?

Eight years of feckless so-called leadership, meh.


22 posted on 12/26/2016 2:10:29 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines
0bama is coming up with two more states?

That makes a total of 59 !!!!!!

23 posted on 12/26/2016 2:42:39 PM PST by TYVets
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To: Jeremiah Jr; Mr. M.J.B.; Ancesthntr; cyn
Resolution 2334:

Here's an 'interesting' place, FYI:

(gematria)

Obadiah 18. And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau stubble, and they shall burn them and consume them; and none shall remain of the house of Esau; for the Lord has spoken it:

והיה בית יעקב אש ובית יוסף להבה ובית עשו לקש ודלקו בהם ואכלום ולא יהיה שריד לבית עשו כי יהוה דבר

Also, all of v. 28, shortly before the family reunion of Jacob and Joseph:

Gen 45

26. And told him, saying, Joseph is yet alive, and he is governor over all the land of Egypt; And Jacob's heart fainted, for he believed them not:
27. And they told him all the words of Joseph, which he had said to them; and when he saw the wagons which Joseph had sent to carry him, the spirit of Jacob their father revived:
28. And Israel said, It is enough; Joseph my son is yet alive; I will go and see him before I die:

Well there you go, Israel thought he was going to die, but...

(5) The Midrash and Gemara explain based on a verse in the Book of Obadiah; "The House of Jacob shall be a fire and the House of Joseph a flame and the House of Esau for straw." (6) A fire cannot destroy straw unless it has a flame with which to spread the fire. Accordingly, Joseph is compared to a flame in that Jacob alone is not able to overcome Esau unless he has the 'flame' of Joseph to spread his own power to the extent that Esau can be overcome. The Gemara then proves that on all the occasions that the Jewish people overcame Esau's descendants, Amalek, in battle, it was only with the aid of Joseph's descendants.(7) We also see this in the fact that Joshua, a descendant of Joseph through Ephraim, overcame Amalek in war. The Midrash stresses that it is the descendants of Rachel in particular who have this ability.(8) And ultimately we know that there will be a Mashiach ben Yosef (a Messiah that descends from the Tribe of Joseph). His role will be to destroy our enemies and pave the way for Mashiach ben David to complete the positive actions of ending the Exile and rebuilding the Temple.

http://www.aish.com/tp/i/gl/231571891.html

Joseph is still alive,

And God remembered Rachel.

Obama/Hillary/Uniparty/Fedzilla and comrades = the Establishment = Esau
We the People = Joseph

Is it any wonder why all hell broke loose?

*trump*

24 posted on 12/26/2016 2:58:54 PM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

About seventy nations are meeting in France before O’bummer leaves office to order and shape the two state solution. Israel and the Palis are not invited. They are going to dictate a solution...like a final solution for Israel.


25 posted on 12/26/2016 3:32:37 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Spose Hussein intends to “solve” the Palestinian/Israel policy before he leaves office? Totally blowing that up would be a fitting last gasp for his administration. it is probably too late to order an invasion of Israel but he could call an air strike against Israel’s nuclear capability.


26 posted on 12/26/2016 4:25:48 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: butlerweave

I think the money is going the other way. Hussein is giving them American money, our money.


27 posted on 12/26/2016 4:27:06 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

If there is a Palestine, it is Israel and Jordan and everything in between and does not refer to a state, but rather a region. It is the place in part of which the Philistines lived. The Philistines don’t live there nay more.


28 posted on 12/26/2016 4:30:04 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: bert

No. Push the Moslem West Bankers into Jordan and the Gazans into Egypt and redraw the Israeli borders to include permanently Judea and Samaria. Initiate philosophical and historical discussions in Israeli media about the Devidian/Solomonic Empire and its greatest extent with a lot of discussion about why or why not it is all the Jewish Homeland, and speculation about how regaining the estranged portions could be accomplished.


29 posted on 12/26/2016 4:33:45 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines; SaraJohnson; Ezekiel
This will give Obama the ability to recognize diplomatically the new Palestinian state. If my reading is correct (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Diplomatic+recognition) Obama can do this without congress.

Suppose he did that and a host of other nations immediately followed suit. POTUSe can't undo anything except for the US recognition but the international recognition would still be there.

Well...

Jeremiah 1:13 And the word of the Lord came to me the second time, saying, “What do you see?”

And I said, “I see a boiling pot, and it is facing away from the north.”

14 Then the Lord said to me:

“Out of the north calamity shall break forth On all the inhabitants of the land.

15 For behold, I am calling All the families of the kingdoms of the north,” says the Lord; “They shall come and each one set his throne At the entrance of the gates of Jerusalem, Against all its walls all around, And against all the cities of Judah.

16 I will utter My judgments Against them concerning all their wickedness, Because they have forsaken Me, Burned incense to other gods, And worshiped the works of their own hands.

17 “Therefore prepare yourself and arise, And speak to them all that I command you. Do not be dismayed before their faces, Lest I dismay you before them.
18 For behold, I have made you this day A fortified city and an iron pillar, And bronze walls against the whole land— Against the kings of Judah, Against its princes, Against its priests, And against the people of the land.

19 They will fight against you, But they shall not prevail against you. For I am with you,” says the Lord, “to deliver you.”

All the families of the kingdoms of the north

Therefore prepare yourself and arise...

30 posted on 12/26/2016 5:37:01 PM PST by Jeremiah Jr (EL CHI)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

This is drive-by diplomacy to the nth degree by Obama. He and Kerry pull this stunt as they are being shown the door. An act of stupidity they would never have dared had Hillary won.


31 posted on 12/26/2016 6:51:11 PM PST by Saltmeat
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To: arthurus

Now that’s interesting. Conquer the land and export the people.

Throughout history, land is an important factor in political evolution. Indigent people are pacified or enslaved.

But it’s worth a thought to consider exportation


32 posted on 12/27/2016 4:21:57 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Macroagression melts snowflakes)
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To: bert

Population removals and exchanges have happened numerous times in History. Those we know about started with the Babylonian captivity, though that really was a removal of the elites, not the whole population. Then there were the Russian operations from the 30s to the 50s where they moved around whole minority populations within the USSR and there was the Hindu Moslem swap in the Indian subcontinent, the Greek-Turkish swap after the Greek final independence. etc. The Israelis could have done that in ‘67 or, with more difficulty in ‘73 and there was discussion of just that in Israel but they let the Americans and Europeans intimidate them out of it.


33 posted on 12/27/2016 5:15:16 AM PST by arthurus (.)
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