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Rep. Duncan Hunter: If Trump really wants a ‘beautiful’ wall, here's what he's gotta get right
Fox News.com ^ | January 9, 2017 | DUNCAN HUNTER

Posted on 01/10/2017 6:07:37 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Donald Trump’s proclamation that he would build a “wall” along the U.S.-Mexico border was a major selling point in his campaign ... It was this commitment that helped propel Trump to the forefront of a crowded field of primary opponents ... and it no less helped distinguish him significantly from Hillary Clinton ... nationwide.

It will soon be show-time for Trump, ... millions of Americans are eager to see him follow through on this promise—...

There is some angst, that Trump and .. advisers might be taking a step back from ... a wall ... instead considering a virtual barrier, comprised of sensors and radars, .... That would be a serious mistake, ... it would signal a broken promise, ... virtual fencing--... has been tried before and failed. -snip-

The Trump administration would be foolish to revive the virtual border fence in place of reliable physical impediments and not learn from the lessons of the past. -snip-

The Bush administration ... Secure Fence Act was ... political opportunity seized...desperate response to public outcry and seen as an enticement to push through another amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants. -snip-

Once the prospect of amnesty unraveled, so did the Bush administration’s interest in fulfilling the mandates of the Secure Fence Act....the Bush administration ... began sidestepping the law, and incorporated a combination of less than effective impediments—including vehicle-barriers and single-layer pedestrian-fencing— to convey the mileage target was met. -snip-

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff running point, the Bush administration utilized every stall tactic available to discourage physical fence construction. What ensued was a billion-dollar boondoggle. -snip-

The Trump administration would be foolish to revive the virtual border fence in place of reliable physical impediments and not learn from the lessons of the past.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 115th; aliens; border; buildthewall; defendborder; duncanhunter; fence; mexico; sandiego; securefenceact; sovereingty; trumpagenda; trumptransition; virtualwall; wall
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To: RedStateRocker

Manjacks. M-60 or M-2 machine guns on a automated turret with IR laser sensors. Something changes in the sweep, the gun slews to it and lights it up.


21 posted on 01/10/2017 6:31:47 AM PST by Salgak (You're in Strange Hands with Tom Stranger. . . .)
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To: Howie66

That’s canned stupid.
Canada (particularly Toronto) is as infested with Muslims as Dearborn.

We need twin matching walls along both borders and to patrol the coasts.


22 posted on 01/10/2017 6:33:26 AM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Brick & Mortar!

Electronics can be turned off and defunded.


23 posted on 01/10/2017 6:33:40 AM PST by G Larry (Pretending Podesta's e-mail are "The American Election System" is nonsense.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
In order to assure that entry be allowed to only those who honestly seek to be a part of the United States of America;

The wall itself need not be "beautiful".

To be effective it would most likely need to be harsh, foreboding, and possibly not a little ugly.

What must be beautiful, and I do believe will be more difficult to get right, is the beautiful door that must be set within the firmly concrete, lawfully needful wall.

24 posted on 01/10/2017 6:34:23 AM PST by BlueDragon
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

We need what they have at Yuma. It’s been very effective. We also need to have military bases located by the best known routes into the US


25 posted on 01/10/2017 6:36:00 AM PST by McGavin999
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That’s exactly what Congr. Hunter has said. The Bush Administration supported amnesty and found every way that he could around the Secure Fence Act after he had signed it into law in 2006.

Within 12 months, and with the help of Sen. Kay Bailey-Hutchinson (TX-R), he defunded the border fence with a signature just hours after Christmas 2007.


26 posted on 01/10/2017 6:36:13 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Hugin

Wrong, Duncan Hunter is not the ‘pearl-clutching’ type.

Hunter is hearing rumblings about the building of a ‘theoretical fence’ similar to what the Bushes produced- A porous sieve.

Hunter’s father, Duncan Hunter I, drafted and sponsored the Secure Fence Act 2006. Living within miles of the CA/MX border, Hunter speaks from a wealth of experience.

This is a warning for Trump to keep a primary campaign promise..

BUILD A WALL, as promised. This promise got him elected and we all know it.


27 posted on 01/10/2017 6:48:07 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Just an article to keep Duncan relevant and I have no problem with it.


28 posted on 01/10/2017 6:51:40 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: Don Corleone

LOL, You want a word and deed wall. Is that what you have for a front door on your home?


29 posted on 01/10/2017 6:55:19 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: MrEdd

Twin walls, cool! Virtual on the Northern border would be a great start.


30 posted on 01/10/2017 6:58:15 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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They also need to install underground sound & movement sensors to detect underground tunnels being created!!


31 posted on 01/10/2017 6:58:20 AM PST by KavMan
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

To start with, a “virtual fence” is as useless as marrying an inflatable doll and calling it a wife.

However, a *realistic* analysis of the real border fence needs to be examined based on its projected results. This is because of “the law of diminishing returns”.

1) Priority to building the wall should be to the limited number of “high volume transit routes.” This is because much of the border is very difficult to cross due to terrain. So blocking the high volume routes will be most cost and time effective. That is, they will reduce illegal immigration from Mexico by about 60%. A lot of “bang for the buck”. The typical crosser would be dissuaded from making the effort.

2) When the wall is built in its entirety, the emphasis begins to seriously shift from human crossing to drug smuggling, and non-Mexican crossers from Mexico. Because drug smugglers are looking for big profits, they are very determined and creative in figuring out how to evade the fence. They are also heavily armed, often with military grade weapons, far outgunning the CBP. The rest of the wall will be far more expensive, but will likely only reduce the number of crossers by another 10-15%, leaving 25% of the illegals still able to get in.

3) Most of these 25% of illegals do not cross from Mexico, but come in through abusing the Visa program. They arrive mostly from Canada or by air as either foreign workers, students, or tourists, and “overstay” their visit. Likewise, many bogus “refugees” now claim “political persecution” in their homeland, which is effectively a “get out of jail free” card to stay in the US.

Here is the State Department Directory of Visa Categories, which needs serious reform. H1-B is just the most frequently mentioned. Often these are used in support of human trafficking.

https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/general/all-visa-categories.html

4) Finally, *at the same time* as these “big bang for the buck” programs, the US needs to substantially streamline its deportation program. We need to incorporate the lifetime ban on reentry to deportations. A big sticking point is that many of these peoples’ home countries don’t want them back. For this reason, we have to be cagey.

If you have seen the Tom Hanks movie, The Terminal, it is about a foreigner stuck in the customs part of an airport, unable to return to his home country because of a revolution, yet unable to legally enter the US. Not wanting to break the law, he refuses to just leave the airport customs area, though assured he can leave scot free any time he likes, that his illegal entry will be ignored.

The important take from this should be that when someone is in a customs area, they are under CPB authority. Typical American rights and civil liberties, including Habeus Corpus, do not apply. And this gives the US an “out” for foreigners we wish to deport, but their home countries do not want.

That is, we need to build what are in effect prisons, but not called prisons, on the north side of the border with Mexico. These will be called customs holding centers, and will be under customs authority. So US federal judges cannot interfere with them.

The vast majority of people we put in there will be Mexican criminals who have served their sentences in the US, but Mexico says it is unwilling to take back except very slowly.

It is indeed a very bad idea to just “kick them across the border”, because they will either immediately join one of the drug cartels, or be murdered by them as an enemy. And this can come back to bite us later.

So once Mexico agrees to take them back, we need to do what Arizona used to do, and fly them on big bodied chartered planes to Mexico city, the better part of a thousand miles from the US border. Very cost effective, and few deported this way ever return.

So, all told, this is a complete package to solve illegal immigration. Unlike what the internationalists want, it does not focus on legal citizens, forcing them to become numbered and labeled and be inconvenienced to live their lives, but instead focuses on illegal aliens, and booting them out.


32 posted on 01/10/2017 6:59:24 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Friday, January 20, 2017. Reparations end.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Cut off all freebies to illegals, especially EITC payments, dispense all anchor baby’s welfare thru a parent or guardian who is a citizen.


33 posted on 01/10/2017 7:02:05 AM PST by umgud
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To: central_va

“Landmines can be dug up. Snipers posted elsewhere. Walls work 7/24/365. Walls are apolitical.”

And a moat. Filled with ill tempered sea bass with frikin laser beams on their heads.


34 posted on 01/10/2017 7:04:08 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Too. Much. Winning.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DreQZhfmZoWk&ved=0ahUKEwiE17bb7bfRAhXFYiYKHfZfCvwQtwIIHTAA&usg=AFQjCNGjiKw4CEUmPcyvNbTWbbzv9fA12A&sig2=F0FA1Qdo2yDHgFxYnYJxzQ


35 posted on 01/10/2017 7:08:47 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: jch10
I don’t care how he does it, just stop illegal entry to the USA!

************************************************************ I don't care either, nor do Americans who just want to see the illegals stopped. The Left will use ANY excuse to attempt too show Trump "lied"

36 posted on 01/10/2017 7:10:39 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: RedStateRocker
The Trump administration would be foolish to revive the virtual border fence in place of reliable physical impediments

...and armed sentries. An un-manned wall will not be effective. The wall needs sentries posted at regular intervals - it's a national security issue.
37 posted on 01/10/2017 7:13:09 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Filled with ill tempered sea bass with frikin laser beams on their heads.
************************************************************

Don’t forget the ultra micro Hellfire Missiles fitted to the underside of the fish (6 in the carriage.


38 posted on 01/10/2017 7:13:18 AM PST by billyboy15
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Still a long ways to go to get control of the Southern Border...

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DHS releases end of year immigration statistics

....
In FY2016 Border Patrol made about 416,000 apprehensions, including nearly 409,000 at the
U.S.-Mexico border. This number is down 75 percent compared to the number of apprehension in FY2000
and down 15 percent from FY2014, but up 23 percent from FY2015, according to DHS officials......

More than half of the people apprehended in the RGV sector in FY2016 were parents with children,
or children who crossed the Rio Grande by themselves, CBP data shows....

End snip....... More details at the linked article.

39 posted on 01/10/2017 7:17:20 AM PST by deport
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To: Don Corleone; Paladin2

So much for the strong image of ‘The Don’ -here’s your kind of border wall Godfather..

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DreQZhfmZoWk&ved=0ahUKEwiE17bb7bfRAhXFYiYKHfZfCvwQtwIIHTAA&usg=AFQjCNGjiKw4CEUmPcyvNbTWbbzv9fA12A&sig2=F0FA1Qdo2yDHgFxYnYJxzQ

~ Cute, thanks P2


40 posted on 01/10/2017 7:21:15 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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