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1 posted on 01/12/2017 6:21:01 AM PST by DFG
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Star Trek is definitely Communist (or fascist). Star Wars universe seems mostly pathetic. Most of the planets seem to live like The Flintstones only with rocket ships and cool weapons.


2 posted on 01/12/2017 6:23:05 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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Star Wars seems more Islamic, bow down to the empire.


3 posted on 01/12/2017 6:24:11 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The COM-Left is saddened by the death of the Communist dictator Fidel Castro. No surprise there.)
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Whic is Nerdier: Star Trek or Star Wars?

-PJ

4 posted on 01/12/2017 6:26:06 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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Peter Thiel is not only and investing genius but he’s also very brave.

in Silicon Valley there is a huge, huge and totally uncompromising pressure to be liberal, and if you’re conservative, shut the hell up..!

Peter Thiel is really Brave.


5 posted on 01/12/2017 6:27:27 AM PST by gaijin
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Original Star trek was always set as the tension between collectivism vs the one. It was Kirk and other characters that broke the collectives rules in order to save the universe. Enterprise itself was always rouge. It highlights the failure of communism.


7 posted on 01/12/2017 6:29:59 AM PST by Raycpa
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Yep. I agree with him. However, Star Trek, TOS had strong conservative messages in it.


8 posted on 01/12/2017 6:30:00 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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So tedious and so false that Obama’s admin had no scandals/ethical problems.

The news media only looks as personal life scandals, and Obama did not seem to have that problem - except spending extravagantly on his own family's vacations, etc.

Political scandals were handled very adroitly by the MSM who covered up everything that was going on that was scandalous - the politicalization of government buros, for example. The infiltration of the WH by the Muslim Brotherhood. When Michele Bachman made it known publicly, she was ridiculed. Enough already of this Obama worship.

9 posted on 01/12/2017 6:30:23 AM PST by Gumdrop
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The economics of Star Trek were never really discussed in the original series, but always appeared to be some kind of utopian socialist society.

Last year Manu Saadia (a fellow traveler of Paul Krugman) wrote a book about it.
11 posted on 01/12/2017 6:31:28 AM PST by indthkr
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“Star Wars” reminds me of “Casablanca” in the sense that there is this underground market filled with smugglers, thieves, bounty hunters, freedom fighters, etc., while being “controlled” by an empire.


12 posted on 01/12/2017 6:31:50 AM PST by kosciusko51
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I don’t know about communist/capitalist — and maybe Star Trek is remiss in not addressing any economic subjects in its scenarios of the future — but one thing I firmly believe:

Star Trek is science fiction, Star Wars is not.


13 posted on 01/12/2017 6:32:53 AM PST by samtheman (I voted for Trump without Russian help.)
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Maybe the original episodes of Star Wars were Capitalist, but not the Prequels. I winced in “Attack of the Clones” when that factory started churning out a huge Clone army based on a very vague promise from Jedi Qui-Gon Jinn.


17 posted on 01/12/2017 6:36:34 AM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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both wrong - they are only movies


18 posted on 01/12/2017 6:38:05 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen
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The Federation is socialist. The rest of the Star Trek universe is kind of capitalist. But really there’s no much cause for an economic system of any type once you have replicators.


21 posted on 01/12/2017 6:44:21 AM PST by discostu (Alright you primative screwheads, listen up!)
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Is Donald Trump real life Kirk?


26 posted on 01/12/2017 6:49:22 AM PST by Raycpa
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Meh, I don’t know how useful it is to draw a simplistic dichotomy like this.

One of the reasons why Star Trek is usually depicted without money, etc. is because it’s intended to show a post-scarcity economy. After all, who needs to buy food or clothes when you can tell a computer to synthesise it out of thin air for you? There IS the somewhat unrealistic “good of their hearts” element involved, of course (e.g. why would someone work as a waitress is she’s not actually being paid? What’s the incentive?)

Notably though, in some of the more “frontier” settings (i.e. DS9), they have “gold-pressed latinum” which serves as hard currency, so there is still a money economy in place at least in part of the galaxy.


37 posted on 01/12/2017 7:04:07 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (Bring back lords and kings)
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Will no one cite the Rules of Acquisition (TNG)?


38 posted on 01/12/2017 7:05:52 AM PST by DickBrannigan (When did logic become reversed, and right became wrong, and wrong became right?)
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I’ve always been creeped out by “The Federation.”

It’s an all-powerful military ruling organization that runs everything.

And while I am not one to cry “antisemitic,” it was pretty obvious the Ferengi were modeled after Shylock/Merchant of Venice.


41 posted on 01/12/2017 7:13:08 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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All Star Treks after 1990 (TNG, DS9, Voyager) were decidedly communist.


51 posted on 01/12/2017 7:32:02 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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I agree with an article I read somewhere about how Star Trek is fascist.
No genetic engineering outside Starfleet’s accepted guidelines.
Don’t meet their guidelines like having a world with genetically engineered people, they isolate you. (Reference several books.)
Admirals in Star Fleet have a massive amount of power, several separate plot lines have one Admiral being enough to potentially take over the Federation.
Star Fleet controls much of interstellar travel and communication.
Star Fleet has its own courts for Bashir’s parents, instead of a civil court.


54 posted on 01/12/2017 8:10:17 AM PST by tbw2
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ThreadNotDead fun BUMP


57 posted on 01/12/2017 8:39:25 AM PST by Freemeorkillme
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