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Lawmaker to propose abolishing EPA
The Hill ^ | 01/31/17 05:31 PM EST | Timothy Cama

Posted on 01/31/2017 4:39:39 PM PST by Olog-hai

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1 posted on 01/31/2017 4:39:39 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Once the EPA is abolished, the economy (especially the oil and gas industry) will take off like gangbusters. We can finally install the refineries that this country needs.


2 posted on 01/31/2017 4:45:15 PM PST by 353FMG (AMERICA FIRST.)
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I can see a legitimate role for some limited type of federal laws and enforcement authority with regard to hazardous materials and substances.

We don’t want to be like China. We can’t have factories spilling SO2 into the atmosphere, or polluting our waters.

Of course, the EPA is so out of control and over the top that it needs to be gutted. But if it’s shut down, we will need to have some sort of agency or authority to handle interstate environmental issues, and also to protect interstate and coastal waters.


3 posted on 01/31/2017 4:50:07 PM PST by Maceman (Love TRUMPS Hate. Love of America, liberty and the Constitution TRUMPS left wing hatred.)
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To: 353FMG

abolish foreign ownership.


4 posted on 01/31/2017 4:50:36 PM PST by ptsal
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To: Olog-hai

At least 1/2 of all the govt. agencies could be abolished or consolidated with no harm done to the nations well being.


5 posted on 01/31/2017 4:51:38 PM PST by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: Olog-hai

Can I get an AMEN!


6 posted on 01/31/2017 4:57:12 PM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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We need to keep the EPA for one reason and one reason only...

Manage the superfund to clean up toxic sites...

Nothing else...


7 posted on 01/31/2017 4:57:48 PM PST by Popman
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To: Maceman
Volcanoes emit SO2 all the time.

Executive agencies are not accountable to voters. If something really ought to be handled at the federal level rather than state level, then Congress ought to establish its own committees and keep the executive from growing out of control, especially where they think they can legislate when they have no such power.
8 posted on 01/31/2017 4:59:10 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Popman

You really trust the executive branch to do that? Never mind an executive agency created by executive order?


9 posted on 01/31/2017 4:59:49 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The reason why I made that suggestion is most toxic sites could bankrupt many states.


10 posted on 01/31/2017 5:07:26 PM PST by Popman
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To: Popman

That’d be thanks to lawfare, I suspect.


11 posted on 01/31/2017 5:14:54 PM PST by Olog-hai
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The Case for Ending the EPA
http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/6065-the-case-for-ending-the-epa

EPA: Time to Abolish, Not Merely Restrict
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/19745-epa-time-to-abolish-not-merely-restrict

EPA v. USA
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/energy/item/17170-epa-v-usa


12 posted on 01/31/2017 5:28:14 PM PST by VitacoreVision
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Suppose you turn this over to the states. I used to live in Charlotte, which draws it water from the Catawba river and returns it to the Catawba after treatment a few miles above the state line with South Carolina where several communities downstream draw there drinking water. In the interests of saving money, the city requests that the state agency not require them to treat the water before returning it tout the river. The state agency allows it knowing that it will only affect a few miles of river in North Carolina. What remedy would cities downstream in South Carolina have other than more expensive treatment options?


13 posted on 01/31/2017 5:41:01 PM PST by oincobx
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To: Olog-hai

There is a legitimate place in government for the EPA. If it returns to its original mission and stays within the bounds of law. I don’t want a return to massive smog and toxic waste being dumped in our waterways. Yeah I know the EPA did that in Colorado. I think care for the environment is important and can be done in such a way that it is not in opposition to Conservative value.


14 posted on 01/31/2017 5:52:50 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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What was its “original mission” if not to accrue more powers for the executive branch? I have looked at its so-called “original mission” and there is nothing legitimate in there, never mind constitutional.


15 posted on 01/31/2017 5:56:41 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: oincobx

What exactly has the executive-branch EPA done to solve problems such as in your hypothetical scenario?


16 posted on 01/31/2017 5:58:32 PM PST by Olog-hai
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Of course, the EPA is so out of control and over the top that it needs to be gutted.

The EPA as a separate agency does not need to exist. Its functions and duties can be merged into some other department, such as the Interior Department. At the same time, all new regulations should be reviewed and approved/disapproved by the house of representatives. No regulation should ever be written as to become embedded into the economy or into society, and can be abolished once they become unnecessary or become burdensome.
17 posted on 01/31/2017 6:00:33 PM PST by adorno (w)
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>>>What exactly has the executive-branch EPA done to solve problems such as in your hypothetical scenario?

They put in place water quality regulations requiring the city to treat the water before it goes back into the river. A state agency may not be so inclined if it’s not their problem.


18 posted on 01/31/2017 6:11:40 PM PST by oincobx
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I notice that you didn’t cite these regulations, which are legislation that bypasses Congress. It is Congress’ job to regulate interstate commerce (if that is what you are referring to) and not the executive branch; read Article 1, Section 8.

Thanks for your dim view of states’ rights and your equally dim view of constitutional separation of powers.


19 posted on 01/31/2017 6:15:12 PM PST by Olog-hai
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Of course, the EPA is so out of control and over the top that it needs to be gutted. But if it’s shut down, we will need to have some sort of agency or authority to handle interstate environmental issues, and also to protect interstate and coastal waters.
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How were these issues regulated before the creation of the EPA?


20 posted on 01/31/2017 6:34:29 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (God, Guns, and Trump will save the USA)
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