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There's No Such Thing As 'Free College' But Two Blue States Will Try Anyway
Forbes ^ | February 8, 2017 | George Leef

Posted on 02/08/2017 7:29:17 AM PST by reaganaut1

One of the good aspects of federalism is that it allows states to go their own way. As Justice Louis Brandeis put it, they can be “laboratories of democracy.”

Unfortunately, that often means that interest groups will capture state legislatures and have their political allies push through foolish legislation that will harm most of the state’s residents while benefiting just a few – mainly their members. (That, incidentally, was true in the case that inspired Brandeis’ observation, New State Ice v. Liebmann. Fortunately, the majority ruled against Oklahoma’s scheme for cartelizing the ice business.)

Two states, New York and Rhode Island are about to indulge in a similarly foolish experiment, namely “free” college for most citizens.

During the hearings on President Trump’s just-confirmed nominee for Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos, Senator Bernie Sanders asked, “Will you work with me and others to make public colleges and universities tuition free through federal and state efforts?”

That, of course, was an idea that he and Hillary Clinton supported in last year’s presidential campaign—that it would be great to make college free.

DeVos replied that the idea was “interesting,” but quickly added this fact that so often eludes politicians: “Nothing in life is truly free – somebody is going to have to pay for it.” Sanders acknowledged that, then went on to say that it “takes us to another issue.”

Too bad that she didn’t further enlighten Senator Sanders by pointing out that the federal government has no authority under the Constitution to make public colleges “free” or, for that matter, to control them in any way at all. Still, her answer made it clear that she doesn’t fall for the collectivistic notion that people shouldn’t have to pay for higher education.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: New York; US: Rhode Island
KEYWORDS: bluestates; college; devos; educationfunding; freecollege; highereducation
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To: BuffaloJack

According to the website it is no longer free.

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41 posted on 02/08/2017 12:09:51 PM PST by Mears
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To: griswold3

Community College offers a two year Associate college degree, which includes the full range of basic (English 101/102; History, Geography, and various Math courses) college credits needed to get a Bachelors Degree at any University. Community College is NOT just a Trade School!


42 posted on 02/08/2017 6:11:02 PM PST by Ambrosia ('If it walks like a duck, quakes like a duck...., unless it's an imposter!)
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To: griswold3

Any student who wants to find out if they qualify for the Pell Grant or other financial aid can fill out a FAFSA form, and by using their income/family income, if living at home. That will also get their state to input any state grants available to them. You would be surprised how many quality especially in this economic era.

https://fafsa.ed.gov/


43 posted on 02/08/2017 6:11:02 PM PST by Ambrosia ('If it walks like a duck, quakes like a duck...., unless it's an imposter!)
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To: Ambrosia

I’m well aware of Community College benefits. My middle child went while working part time. Afterwards, her employer paid for her Bachelors.
I’m just saying that it’s not for everyone. Many know-it-all liberals tout college for everyone but it’s not. I’ve argued with many about Trade school instead and have been denigrated.


44 posted on 02/08/2017 6:39:08 PM PST by griswold3
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To: reaganaut1
There's No Such Thing As 'Free College' But Two Blue States Will Try Anyway

Wasn't California like this; back in the day?

45 posted on 02/09/2017 3:51:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Moonman62

Do NOT allow a ‘teacher’ of a class to mandate using a TEXTBOOK he/she has written for that class!


46 posted on 02/09/2017 3:54:04 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Bob434

- and condoms; too; no doubt!


47 posted on 02/09/2017 3:55:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: griswold3

I support CC, because I know firsthand that curriculum is first and politics almost non existent in class. I find those students who go to CC first do well in University. Yes, I agree NOT all should go to a Bachelors/Graduate. There are all varieties of healthcare certificates up to RN, and the many choices are a way to make a living once out of high school.

My point was so many think CC is only about Trade or Certification programs. It is a huge savings for those who plan to go further. The basics are same whether gotten at CC or Univ. An employer looks at where you got your last degree, be it Bachelors, Masters, or PHD.

Hopefully, more struggling students will realize the value of local CCs. The cost of student loan debts are overwhelming.

Thanks for bringing it up.


48 posted on 02/09/2017 2:53:50 PM PST by Ambrosia ('If it walks like a duck, quakes like a duck...., unless it's an imposter!)
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To: griswold3

I support CC, because I know firsthand that curriculum is first and politics almost non existent in class. I find those students who go to CC first do well in University. Yes, I agree NOT all should go to a Bachelors/Graduate. There are all varieties of healthcare certificates up to RN, and the many choices are a way to make a living once out of high school.

My point was so many think CC is only about Trade or Certification programs. It is a huge savings for those who plan to go further. The basics are same whether gotten at CC or Univ. An employer looks at where you got your last degree, be it Bachelors, Masters, or PHD.

Hopefully, more struggling students will realize the value of local CCs. The cost of student loan debts are overwhelming.

Thanks for bringing it up.


49 posted on 02/09/2017 2:53:50 PM PST by Ambrosia ('If it walks like a duck, quakes like a duck...., unless it's an imposter!)
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