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GOP senator, a Vietnamese refugee, removed from California Senate floor after criticizing Tom Hayden
San Jose Mercury News ^ | Feb 23 2017 | Katy Murphy

Posted on 02/23/2017 9:37:10 PM PST by WilliamIII

SACRAMENTO — Republican legislators are decrying what they call a free-speech violation after Sen. Janet Nguyen, an Orange County Republican, was forcibly removed from the Senate floor Thursday morning during an attempt to criticize the late California Sen. Tom Hayden.

The unusual scene, captured on video, shows the Vietnamese-American lawmaker being led from the floor by Capitol security officers.

Nguyen, who fled communist Vietnam with her family and arrived in the U.S. in the early 1980s when she was a young child, is critical of Hayden’s anti-Vietnam War activism.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


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1 posted on 02/23/2017 9:37:10 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

Mercury News always freezes my computer, what did she do, talk about his traitor wife?


2 posted on 02/23/2017 9:42:41 PM PST by easternsky
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To: WilliamIII

In Liberal Academia and now Government the Asian is slowly becoming like the Jew in Germany.

They work “too hard” for a “minority” and make all the lazy a-holes on the left look bad because of this violates the party line that “minorities can never succeed”...


3 posted on 02/23/2017 9:43:19 PM PST by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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To: GraceG

This was about her criticizing a Dem hero who was pro- communist


4 posted on 02/23/2017 9:44:23 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

Communists are going to be Communist.

The Democrats in California “recently” repealed the laws there that prohibited Communists and seditionists from teaching in California schools.


5 posted on 02/23/2017 9:44:38 PM PST by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: a fool in paradise

Degenerate Bastards!


6 posted on 02/23/2017 9:45:50 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: a fool in paradise

If there were such a law, how did Angela Davis teach at Cal for many years?


7 posted on 02/23/2017 9:57:22 PM PST by alpo (Resist we did.)
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To: easternsky

Apparently had audacity to question tom Hayden’s radical legacy.


8 posted on 02/23/2017 9:59:49 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: alpo

Laws are selectively enforced all the time.


9 posted on 02/23/2017 10:18:22 PM PST by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: WilliamIII

Wow, they *forcibly* removed her. That goes beyond the mere verbal rebuke that Pocahontas got the other day. Given how the Dems flipped out over that, no doubt they will be leaping to Nguyen’s defense.

Wait, what’s that you say? The Democrats are contemptible hypocrite pigs?

Oh yes, that’s right. I forgot for a second there.


10 posted on 02/23/2017 10:20:31 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: alpo

Very good question.


11 posted on 02/23/2017 10:22:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: WilliamIII

I salute her for addressing Hayden on my behalf.

Perfect match for that skank Fonda.


12 posted on 02/23/2017 10:26:37 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: alpo

http://www.dailybulletin.com/article/zz/20130113/NEWS/130118554
California law keeps Communist Party members from teaching
By Beau Yarbrough, Staff Writer
POSTED: 01/13/13, 12:01 AM PST | 6 COMMENTS
California’s schools are, in many cases, a child’s first exposure to people different than their family members.

They might speak different languages, look different or believe in different things.

But legally, there’s one thing their teachers cannot be: Communists.

In the Golden State, even being a member of the Communist Party is still a firing offense 59 years after the late Sen. Joseph McCarthy’s hearings on communists in the federal government and 23 years after the end of the Cold War.

California Education Code Sec. 44932 outlines the reasons a school employee can be fired.

Firing offenses include immoral or unprofessional conduct, “criminal syndicalism,” dishonesty, unsatisfactory performance, evident unfitness for service, a physical or mental condition making the employee unfit to instruct or associate with children, persistent violation of state or local school policies, conviction of a felony or any crime involving moral turpitude, alcoholism or drug abuse - or membership in the Communist Party.

“It’s a remnant of the Cold War era and should have long been dropped from the Educational Code,” said Juan Lopez, the California chairman for the Communist Party USA.

Communists aren’t a registered political party in California, but they’re still around, and in good numbers, he said.

“We have more teachers that have joined the Communist Party than any other professions,” he said.

“More than anything, we laugh about it,” said Luis Rivas, a member of the Southern California Young Communists League. “Historically, in the U.S., there’s always been this pretty turbulent tension between the U.S. and Soviet Union.”

And that’s especially true in the Golden State despite California’s contemporary reputation as a bastion of leftist politics.

“There’s always been a very deep conservative strain, particularly in politics, in California,” said Eileen Wallis, who chairs the history department at Cal Poly Pomona. “You’ve got to remember, we produced both Nixon and Reagan.”

The Golden State actually beat McCarthy to the punch with anti-communist campaigns. State Sen. Jack B. Tunney’s California Un-American Activities Committee’s hearings predated McCarthy’s by more than six years.

The prohibition against Communists isn’t the only vestige of the Cold War affecting teachers.

“We are still required as public employees to take a loyalty oath to the state of California,” Wallis said. “People in the CSU still occasionally lose their jobs for refusing to sign it.”

Those who refuse to sign the oath typically do so for religious reasons, she said.

California’s Communists don’t advocate a violent overthrow of the government or the American system of governance, Lopez said.

“It’s the people of our country that have to make a choice about the direction our country has to take,” he said. “We obviously think a socialist USA would be better, but by `socialist,’ we mean people, working people, in charge of the country instead of the corporations and the lobbyists.”

Lopez, who has been active in Community Party circles for more than four decades, said the law hasn’t been used to persecute any teachers, even those open about their political beliefs.

“The Communist Party has been on the forefront of the struggle to fight for public education and fight the cuts that have come down since recent years,” he said.

“I know a few anarchist teachers and a few radicals in the school system,” said Rivas. “I think most people tend to keep it quiet.”

Local legislators aren’t sure if teachers should be required to keep even their radical political affiliations a secret.

“There was a time when both Republicans and Democrats saw the Communist Party as a threat,” said Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, R-Hesperia. “Ronald Reagan was a Democrat who fought the communists who took over his union.”

Donnelly is no fan of the political left, to put it mildly.

“The leadership of the Democratic Party in California have more in common with the Communist Party than they do with the Democratic Party of the JFK era,” he said. “I find the idea of confiscating the wealth of hardworking people in order to fund all these socialist schemes of the Democrats who are in charge to be absolutely appalling.”

But he opposes rules about who can or cannot be a teacher based on their political beliefs.

“I think we need to get rid of laws and repeal restrictions,” he said. “I think if someone wants to think that way, it’s a free country.”

One of Donnelly’s counterparts across the aisle agrees.

“There are many, many things that are still in the law that probably need to be removed, and that would be a monumental task,” said Assemblywoman Cheryl R. Brown, D-San Bernardino.

“I think of it in terms of the (segregationist) Jim Crow laws,” she said, “and there’s still some of that in there. As soon as it’s found, it’s taken out.”

In 2008, an attempt to repeal the ban on Communists in the classroom, but then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed S.B. 1322.

“Many Californians have fled communist regimes, immigrated to the United States and sought freedom in our nation because of the human rights abuses perpetuated in other parts of the world,” Schwarzenegger’s written response reads in part.

“It is important particularly for those people that California maintains the protections of current law. Therefore, I see no compelling reason to change the law that maintains our responsibility to ensure that public resources are not used for purposes of overthrowing the U.S. or state government, or for communist activities.

“For these reasons, I am unable to sign this bill.”

Lopez hopes to see the ban repealed some day.

“It should be repealed. Most definitely,” he said. “It’s a relic of the past that has no business being in the Education Code or anywhere else, for that matter. It’s really a violation of our constitutional rights, civil liberties, and so on.”

But his younger comrade isn’t optimistic that the two dominant political parties will ever allow what he says they still consider a radical political belief into the classroom.

“Whoever controls the minds of the next generation, basically controls the future,” Rivas said.

Staff writer Andrew Edwards contributed to this report.


http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/supreme-court-rules-on-communist-teachers

1952
Supreme Court rules on communist teachers

In a 6-3 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court upholds a New York state law that prohibits communists from teaching in public schools. Coming at the height of the Red Scare in the United States, the Supreme Court decision was additional evidence that many Americans were concerned about possible subversive communist activity in their country.

The New York state statute—called the Feinberg Law—banned from the teaching profession anyone who called for the overthrow of the government; the law was specifically aimed at communists. Several other states adopted similar measures. In New York, a group of teachers and parents challenged the law, and eventually the case went to the Supreme Court. The majority decision upholding the Feinberg Law, declared the New York Times, supported the belief that “the state had a constitutional right to protect the immature minds of children in its public schools from subversive propaganda, subtle or otherwise, disseminated by those ‘to whom they look for guidance, authority and leadership.’” The dissenting opinion from justices William O. Douglas, Hugo Black, and Felix Frankfurter charged that the New York statute “turns the school system into a spying project.” In New York, the Teachers Union vowed to continue fighting the law. Eight teachers had already been dismissed under the provisions of the law and as many others were facing hearings.

The Supreme Court decision was a barometer of the national temper. In the years preceding the case, former State Department official Alger Hiss had been convicted of perjury in connection with his testimony concerning his involvement with the Communist Party; Julius and Ethel Rosenberg had been convicted and sentenced to death for passing atomic secrets to the Soviets; and Senator Joseph McCarthy had made a career out of searching for communists in the U.S. government. By 1952, many Americans were convinced that communist agents and supporters were actively at work within the United States, and that their forces permeated every aspect of American life. The Feinberg Law remained in force until another Supreme Court decision in 1967 declared most of its provisions unconstitutional.




13 posted on 02/23/2017 10:28:51 PM PST by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: WilliamIII

#LetJanetSpeak


14 posted on 02/23/2017 10:29:46 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: WilliamIII

I’ve always found it peculiar that so many refugees from the communists of southeast Asia have attenmpted to live in communist California.


15 posted on 02/23/2017 10:34:22 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: DoughtyOne

There are quite a few Vietnamese-Americans, including some Nguyens, many of whom came during the exodus from South Vietnam, who work in the defense related program management organizations. They are patriotic, smart, committed, and just generally fantastic. It really chaps me to see this.


16 posted on 02/23/2017 10:40:07 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

Me too, especially noting how that craven fool sold out the Vietnamese people.

She knows the real Hayden, and what he and his wife’s legacy were.

It is a shame to see her treated like that, but I’ll guarantee you some Californians do remember.


17 posted on 02/23/2017 10:44:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Exactly right. Elizabeth Warren was “silenced” for repeating a bunch of lies about Jeff Sessions the other day, but this lady was telling the truth about Hayden.


18 posted on 02/23/2017 10:53:10 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: easternsky

What happened to the, “We are all immigrants” rant for allowing immigrants to do what they want? If anyone has a beef with Tom Hayden and “Hanoi” Jane, it is a Vietnamese immigrant......a LEGAL immigrant. I congratulate her for the guts to stand up in a Kalifornia legislative body and reveal the truth about an American traitor who gave aid and comfort to the enemy


19 posted on 02/23/2017 10:57:30 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: Yardstick

I didn’t hear her comments, but if she was criticizing him, I’m pretty sure why.

If I’m right, you bet she was telling the truth.

Warren, ugh! LOL

She was blasting a sitting Senator wasn’t she, and as you said, it wasn’t the truth.


20 posted on 02/23/2017 10:58:13 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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