[RedWulf]

No buy American and hire American in blue states.

[Garth Tater]

Well that should certainly help them recruit students into their Computer Science department.

UCSF: Not only will we teach you the latest coding techniques, we will also help you find a job in the fast growing food and beverage industry.

[Born to Conserve]

$30,000,000 saved over five years laying off fifty people.

$30,000,000 divided by five, divided by fifty: $120,000

$120,000 average.

[Billthedrill]

Just retired after 37 years in the IT biz, and I've seen it all before. Outsourcing sounds great until you discover that certain things that just got done by in-house staff that weren't in their job descriptions, didn't make the contract and are now going to cost money. And that the new support staff's English isn't all that great. And that they don't work weekends so the production schedule isn't impacted. Stuff like that.

Best of luck to the geeks, no sympathy at all to management who made the decision. Because what will happen is those extra functions will be foisted on existing staff whose primary responsibility isn't IT, and they'll be expected to take them on for free. It's sort of like taking your IT department back about 20 years.

[SteveH]

laying off a 58yo tech guy in silly valley is about equivalent to a career kiss of death and tells you all you need to know about how much the industry upper management treasures experience and maturity and keeping jobs in the USA. this guy is on a fast track to selling his house to squeeze out some coasting money from the equity and moving to a studio apartment in Redding and a McD janitor job. Or, maybe Richmond if he wants to try to stay close and risk the gangbang stray gunfire. Anyway hope he can somehow land on his feet or a rich uncle suddenly dies.

[Moltke]

a way to save $30 million over five years

More money for the "administrator" mandarins then!

[CptnObvious]

Had this happened at my work. The work was farmed out to India where they were given minimal training and 'scripts' to follow dealing with complicated situations.

Before the workers in America were let go, they were handling tons of calls that those in India, with the scripts, clearly had no clue. The customers were livid; threatening never to use my company ever again.

Several months after this disaster, several of the American workers were hired back to 'Handle' sensitive customers. But the majority of the customers continued to get the clueless with their scripts.

Yesterday I was dealing with my network at home and being locked out of my providers website. After convincing the clueless foreign sounding person not to follow the script and saying that the box had done this over and over again (locked up) they finally said a technician would be dispatched with a new box and that they would 'take care' of me being locked out of the website.

I solved the lockout myself while waiting for the tech. It was simply by requesting a password 'reset'.

When will we bring back American Exceptionalism so I don't have to battle the clueless so much??

[RideForever]

What does it say about the value of the degree in IT they provide?