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Go See Sinatra
Townhall.com ^ | March 1, 2017 | Terry Jeffrey

Posted on 03/01/2017 6:14:44 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 03/01/2017 6:14:44 AM PST by Kaslin
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When people ask me what I listen to, I say “classical music...and Sinatra”. I was fortunate to see/hear Frank live twice - first around 1974-5 (it was after his “Main Event” concert in NY and almost the same show; I was around 18)), and later around 1981-2. He didn’t sound like he did in the 50’s, which was Sinatra’s greatest period, IMO; but he sounded good. I think he was better in the later concert I saw than the one in the 70’s. He could still do the up-tempo numbers well.


2 posted on 03/01/2017 6:33:32 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: Kaslin

I like Sinatra music, but he was another mobbed up dope.


3 posted on 03/01/2017 6:37:19 AM PST by DaxtonBrown
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To: Sans-Culotte
I heard him sing in person once. I was in my twenties and had never really understood why he was considered such a star. His voice over the radio sounded less melodic and more North Jersey conversational.

Then I heard him sing a few songs live into a mike in front of an actual orchestra. His voice was like an instrument, the dominant instrument, of the orchestra. Not a separate thing but the essential element. I have heard nothing like that from any singer before or since.

4 posted on 03/01/2017 6:41:31 AM PST by katana (It still hasn't occurred to them that Trump doesn't give a s***)
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Yep, Frank always sang live with the orchestras in his recordings. Many singers would add the vocal track to an existing instrumental track, but not Sinatra. To me, he is almost like an opera singer. His breath support as he pushes out the sound is operatic. He didn't merely rely on his vocal cords for sound, but pushed his voice with his diaphragm.

A lot of people don't get that there are several phases to Sinatra's singing career. All are so different thay almost sound like a different person. There's the young crooner who was the idol of bobby-soxers, then the swinging bachelor guy of the 50's in a fedora (the Capitol Years - his best years IMO), then the Rat Pack years of the 60's, followed by his years of touring in a tux from the mid-70's to his death. Most non-Sinatra fans probably think of "New York, New York" when they think of Sinatra. That was basically his last big hit, and done after his voice had lost much of its range and elasticity.

5 posted on 03/01/2017 6:52:16 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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When I heard that Sinatra had started forgetting words to the songs on stage, etc. I told Hubby...let’s go see him. He was in Vegas and we went. He was forgetting his lines but it didn’t matter. He worked around it, laughed about it, and ad libbed it. Still one of the best concerts I’ve ever been to. HE died not that much later.
So glad I got to see him.


6 posted on 03/01/2017 6:55:01 AM PST by sheana
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To: Sans-Culotte
I've been very fortunate that a friend (who began as a partner on a few of his projects) is an acclaimed re-mastering engineer who always goes back to the true, original master tapes for his remastering projects.

He has gifted me with many, many tracks burned direct from the studio master tapes - some "dry" before the dreaded reverb was added and some with unreleased studio chatter. The sound quality of these direct burns from the studio tapes is quite exceptional. The "dry" very version of "The Best Is Yet to Come" is extraordinarily lifelike.

Sinatra's voice & phrasing remains the gold standard.

IMO, his best (recorded) live performance is "Live At The Sands" with Count Basie and a young Quincy Jones...except on "One For My Baby and One more For The Road" when he is joined by his personal pianist, Bill Miller. Arguably, it is THE best version of his signature song.


7 posted on 03/01/2017 6:57:51 AM PST by newfreep ("If Lyin' Ted was an American citizen, he would be a traitor.")
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To: newfreep

Thanks for the advice; “Saved” the recording to my Spotify library. Looking forward to listening to it


8 posted on 03/01/2017 7:14:37 AM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: Kaslin

I listen to him sing Summer Wind and I hear a saxophone.

He produces a saxophone “growl”. That’s not a very good word for it.

He was a master of the sound he produced.


9 posted on 03/01/2017 7:19:41 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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WWII draft dodger . . . my older Vet friends will never forgive him . . . showed his bravery on sound stages


10 posted on 03/01/2017 7:20:38 AM PST by laweeks
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One For My Baby:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmGwub9NkUo&list=PLNhd15AQwL21LKz5OGTBnq707dRYn_7oz&index=5


11 posted on 03/01/2017 7:29:21 AM PST by upchuck (If a Moose has Diarrhea, is that Mooslime? h/t Scrambler Bob)
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To: newfreep
I quite enjoy that Sands album. IMO, Sinatra's voice peaked around 1958, but he still had a great voice and was capable of great things for years to come.

Another favorite live Sinatra album for me is SINATRA '57.

This concert was recorded when his current album release was "A Swingin' Affair", and the program consists largely of songs of his Capitol albums up to Swingin' Affair. Because it's right at the height of Sinatra's cool Capitol persona, it just has an air of excitement that's is hard to beat. The arrangements of all the songs are more-or-less the same as the ones on the albums. His into music is Elmer Bernstein's theme from "Man With the Golden Arm", and then the band goes into the familiar opening to "You Make Me Feel so Young". Sinatra sounds a tad rough on a few of the slow songs where he has to hit a high note (he says "I feel like I swallowed a shot glass!"). But over all, a great concert.

I use that cover photo of Sinatra as the lock screen on my phone.

12 posted on 03/01/2017 7:48:28 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: Kaslin
Saw Sinatra when i was 17 (in the early forties) at the Paramount in Newark NJ. They showed a Movie first and then had the Band with the singer. Saw him number of times with different Bands.

Also saw him up close, when he owned Cal Neva in Lake Tahoe, Ca. At 2am, as we were leaving, he was sitting with a small group near a piano, some of people stopped and waited to see if he would sing. About 3am he asked his pianist to warm up. He then sang for an entire hour. What a free performance!

13 posted on 03/01/2017 8:37:30 AM PST by topspinr
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If you like "57", I VERY HIGHLY recommend finding the Steve Hoffman remastered version for the best sound quality on the DCC label.

Although "57' is quite good, I prefer his version of "One For My Baby" on the "Sands" - voicing a bit different on the line, "My bending your ear"


14 posted on 03/01/2017 8:43:10 AM PST by newfreep ("If Lyin' Ted was an American citizen, he would be a traitor.")
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Yes, the Steve Hoffman gold CD is the version I have. I also have the MoFi versions that have been done of Sinatra's albums on CD and SACD. I'm with you - I want the original sound of Sinatra's albums without the added reverb. And don't get me started on the Bob Norberg travesties.

Sinatra did many great versions of "One For My Baby". I'll have to listen to the Sands album tonight. One thing for sure - he owned that song. No one else need even bother to sing it.

15 posted on 03/01/2017 8:51:48 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: Sans-Culotte

I went to school with his daughter, Tina. And, at one of her parties, we went next door to visit Zsa zsa.


16 posted on 03/01/2017 9:02:44 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS!!!)
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To: Kaslin

I saw Frank in concert once, in Michigan in 1992. Obviously the voice had declined but he put on a great show with Shirley MacLaine. The place was mostly full but not sold out.


17 posted on 03/01/2017 9:10:47 AM PST by LiveFree99
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Watched a post war documentary yesterday that had a clip of Bing Crosby performing impromptu in front of some troops in England. He ragged on Sinatra, something about wearing a diaper.


18 posted on 03/01/2017 9:15:17 AM PST by Rebelbase
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Dang, is this story trying to make me buy tickets to the Red Hot chili Peppers concert and take my older two sons?? It’s so much $, just for one night...


19 posted on 03/01/2017 9:20:27 AM PST by Yaelle
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He the fortune of seeing Sinatra in 1991 with my now wife. He was reading lyrics from a TelePrompTer but his voice was still magical. His voice is so strong and so pure that it dominated everything around him. Go buy Sinatra at The Sands right now. One of the best live records ever produced.


20 posted on 03/01/2017 9:23:24 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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