Posted on 03/13/2017 12:26:56 PM PDT by EveningStar
I just wrote the WH as well and expressed similar sentiments, such as, `We didn’t send you to the WH in order to resuscitate the odious Affordable Care act.’
Maybe a little to good at making a deal. No one asked for more government care from big insurance companies. If I can make it to Nashville tomorrow, I will tell him NO. Winning this is not.....
PLUS 10!!!
And here we go.
He can “sell” it all he wants. I ain’t buying. I thought we had an ally in the White House to fight against Ryancare. I see I was wrong.
He can call it The Elusive Repeal Tour.
Speaking for myself, I will trust Trump and wait on events before rendering final judgment. People continue to underestimate him, even his supporters!
If he’s selling Swampy Ryan’s smelly 3 phase bait and switch plan, he’ll lose his base.
If you should lose we (the people), you’ll lose a good thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x4AZHDT-4A
I preface my remarks by saying that our entire family supported and voted for President Trump. That said, if he is going there to try and hock the totally crap, bogus GOPE Ryan Obomination death care lite bill, he's in for a huge wake up call from his base because we, his supporters HATE THE BILL AND WANT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, PERIOD!
Millions upon millions of Americans placed him in power to represent US, not the insurance industry and health care lobbyists.
We want Obomination deathcare COMPLETELY REPEALED FIRST, and AFTER THAT, President Trump "the negotiator" can WORK ON OUR BEHALF FOR A CHANGE AND REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS AMERICAN CITIZENS. That is what HE PROMISED, and that is what we sent him to DC to do.
I think some of you are missing the point. That 1200 page monstrosity is only one option of the bill. I think where they are trying to go with this is they are going to make Obamacare so prohibitive that it will have to die. Meanwhile they are going to put together the free market options which along with things like tort reform and purchasing across state lines will be added.
Now you reconcile the bill which will present the public with several options, one of them being Obamacare. If you want to buy it, go ahead. If you don’t want to buy it, get another plan. Then after a period of review, you come up with a scorecard that shows how bad Obamacare did and you propose to sunset it, saving almost a trillion dollars.
Let the left dine on that.
ICU812
Alexander and Corker both voted for the Gang of Amnesty and need to be Cantorized.
They went downhill after that album.
#1. Look, repeal first with a date that will happen just before the 2018 elections.
#2. Replace with a COMPLETE bill that we expect.
#3. Allow the Democrats to block a 60 vote passage.
#4. Put the collapse of the new bill after repeal on the backs of the Democrats.
#5. After election pick up the 60 votes and get this done right or do reconciliation if you have to THEN, not now.
Strategery President Donald J. Trump style (ILWT)
It's a two-fer
Pass repeal and replace obambicare
followed up shortly after by a massive tax cut bill
Then re-visit the health care....major modifications.
(ILWT = I Love Writing That)
Can’t repeal until 2019...
Thanks to the way the Dems. ramrodded this health bill through and down our throats, it was done under a ‘budget’ and money is involved already in the bill...read below...
During the 2008 US presidential election, then candidate Barack Obama (US Senator, D-IL) campaigned for the need to reform the American health care system, stating that the cost of health care was a “threat to our economy” and that health care should be a “right for every American.” After assuming office in Nov. 2008, President Obama urged Congress to pass health care reform in weekly addresses, speeches, a nationally televised address to a joint session of Congress on Sep. 9, 2009, and his State of the Union addresses in 2009 and 2010.
Republican and Democrat congressional representatives introduced 133 health care and related bills during the 111th session of Congress (Jan. 2009 - Dec. 2009). Many Democrats supported measures such as the public option and individual mandate, while many Republicans opposed increasing government spending and control on health care. On Nov. 7, 2009 the House Democrats garnered a vote of 220-215 to approve the Affordable Health Care for America Act (HR 3962). Only one Republican, Anh Cao (R-LA), voted for the bill, and 39 Democrats voted against it. The bill was estimated to cost $1.1 trillion, provide coverage for 36 million uninsured Americans, and create a government health insurance program. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated that the bill would reduce the federal deficit by $118 billion over 2010-2019.
On Dec. 24, 2009 the Senate approved similar health care reform legislation called the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (HR 3590), in a 60-39 party-line vote. HR 3590 began as the Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009, a bill passed by the House on Oct. 8 that modified the homebuyers credit for members of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees. In a procedural move, the Senate co-opted HR 3590, removed all existing language, and replaced it with the language of their health care bill, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. No Republican Senator voted for the bill. Some Republicans argued that the bill was unconstitutional, socialistic, too costly, and would increase health insurance costs for those who are already insured. This bill was estimated to cost $871 billion over 10 years, would require most Americans to have health insurance, and would extend coverage to 31 million uninsured Americans. The CBO estimated that the bill would reduce the federal deficit by $138 billion over 2010-2019.
Negotiations to reconcile the House and Senate bills stalled in Congress after Scott Brown (R-MA) won late Ted Kennedy’s (D-MA) vacant Senate seat in Jan. 2010, causing Senate Democrats to lose their Republican filibuster-proof majority of 60 seats. On Feb. 22, 2010 President Obama unveiled his own proposal bridging the Senate and House health care bills, placing pressure on the House to pass health care reform legislation. House Democrats advanced the their amendments to HR 3590 as a new budget reconciliation bill, which is a form of legislation that requires only a simple majority and not a supermajority of 60 votes in the Senate to be approved.
On Mar. 21, 2010 the House approved the Senate’s bill (HR 3590) in a 219-212 vote and passed the House’s amendments to HR 3590 as the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 (HR 4872) in a 220-211 vote. The Reconciliation Act made financing and revenue changes to HR 3590, while modifying higher education assistance financing. No Republican in the House voted for either HR 3590 or the reconciliation bill.
President Obama signed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (HR 3590) (2.2 MB) into law on Mar. 23, 2010. This law was the main piece of legislation reforming the US health care system. The 906 page act was touted to increase health care coverage to include 32 million previously uninsured Americans. Under the new law, 95% of Americans will be insured, according to the White House website’s “Putting Americans in Control of Their Health Care” page (accessed Mar. 29, 2010).
President Obama issued Executive Order 13535 (90 KB) on Mar. 24, 2010, to ensure that federal funds would not be used for abortion services, consistent with the Hyde Amendment (1.3 MB) , as he had promised anti-abortion Democrats.
On Mar. 25, 2010 the Senate approved the Reconciliation Act with amendments in a 56-43 vote, and the House approved the Senate’s amended version of the act in a 220-207 vote. The Reconciliation Act (HR 4872) (283 KB) was signed into law by President Obama on Mar. 30, 2010 to make health-related financing and revenue changes to HR 3590 and to modify higher education assistance provisions.The CBO estimated that HR 3590 with the Reconciliation Act would reduce the federal deficit by $143 billion over 2010-2019, provide coverage for 32 million previously uninsured Americans, and require more Americans to have health insurance. The CBO’s deficit reduction calculation has been disputed; some independent calcuations conclude the bills would raise the deficit by over $500 billion over the next 10 years.
The Patient’s Bill of Rights (181 KB) , a summary of regulations issued by the US Departments of Health and Human Services (HHS), Labor, and Treasury, to implement the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, was released by the White House on June 22, 2010.
On Jan. 5, 2011 the new Republican-majority US House of Representatives introduced The Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act (HR 2) (144 KB) to repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and health care related provisions in the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010. On Jan. 19, 2011, the US House of Representatives passed the bill in a 245-189 vote. On Feb. 2, 2011, in a 51-47 party-line vote, the US Senate rejected The Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act.
This is why it is being done in 3 different phrases...don’t yell at me, I didn’t write the bill, I didn’t pass the bill and I didn’t vote for the bill, and I think that all of this barkycare should be hung around every democrat neck for the rest of their lives...
Mumbo jumbo b/s. Thanks to we the fed up voters, the Republicans now control the house and the senate AND the rules and the purse.
But that can quickly change if they blow it.
Drain the damned swamp already!
Defund, defang, repeal!!
I’m not a Cruzlim, so Trump has earned the benefit of the doubt with me. He’s still negotiating.
So 3 stages, huh? Then let’s PASS STAGE 3 (ROBUST Medical Malpractice Lawsuit Reform, LOSER PAYS, allow Cross State Insurance & other law changes to bring down the cost of medical care) FIRST and INITIATE STAGE 2 (at least provide a general outlining of the broad view of regulatory reform) SECOND.
Then, and ONLY THEN, we can discuss Ryan’s proposal and address it (OPEN TO AMENDMENT) in Congress.
Cut the budget and my tax dollars. If you have to go out of your way to “try to sell” something, it’s not worth having. We the People don’t want it. Dump the entire miss into the out the back door of the WH.
Repeal the whole thing first.
THEN
we will talk about what if anything to replace it with.
(I do think those who have been paying their premiums should be allowed to keep their coverage if they can continue to afford to do so, even if they only got coverage because of the pre-existing condition mandate of Obamacare.)
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