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Internal clashes hit ISIS ranks in Syria’s Tabqa: SDF
ARA News ^ | April 23, 2017 | Wladimir van Wilgenburg

Posted on 04/23/2017 5:18:05 AM PDT by Texas Fossil

Internal clashes broke out on Saturday between militant fighters of the Islamic State (ISIS) in the town of Tabqa in Syria’s northeastern Raqqa province, military sources reported.

This comes amidst continued advance by the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) against ISIS in Tabqa. The SDF has imposed a heavy siege on ISIS-held neighbourhoods inside the town.

A source in the Syrian Democratic Forces confirmed that internal fighting erupted among ISIS fighters in Tabqa, after some of them wanted to surrender due to the SDF siege on the town.

“As a result of the fighting and the siege on the ISIS terrorists inside the city of Tabqa, the Syrian Democratic Forces is witnessing that some of the Daesh [ISIS members] want to surrender themselves to the SDF,” said Jesper Söder, a Swedish volunteer with the SDF forces.

“But their commanders don’t allow them to do this, so they are fighting among themselves inside Tabqa,” the source said.

According to the SDF member, a number of ISIS militants have been killed by their own in Tabqa city on Saturday.

“Several Daesh [fighters] have been killed by their own inside of the city,” Söder reported.

The information could not be verified by other sources.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria
KEYWORDS: fight; internal; isis; tabqa
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I had heard rumors a few days ago that negotiations between ISIS and some of the SDF had taken place.

This is a sign the rumors were correct.

Another on FR had suggested to me privately that this might be an element of locals who were conscripted or volunteered to joing ISIS and learned to regret it.

ISIS in Tabqa has fought fiercely to defend it. I suspect some of the top leadership was here. I came to that conclusion because of the training facilities near the dam.

This is a good sign. Anything to end this quicker and with less loss of life by the coalition (opposing ISIS) is a good thing.

Tabqa is just part of the battle at ISIS's headquarters in Raqqa. But it shows ISIS is loosing heavily.

1 posted on 04/23/2017 5:18:05 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: BeauBo; Candor7; ColdOne; Navy Patriot

Tabqa/Raqqa Ping


2 posted on 04/23/2017 5:18:49 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

ISIS in Syria is made up of about 33% true believers and 66% Sunni tribes.

The tribes signed up for power and war spoils. Not a suicide mission.


3 posted on 04/23/2017 5:31:59 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Texas Fossil

Apostates want to surrender. They are apostates because they want to give it up. A Moslem dies in the fight against infidels. One who does not want to die fighting the infidel is ipso facto apostate and deserving of the sort of death that closes the gates of Paradise to them.


4 posted on 04/23/2017 5:35:38 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Texas Fossil

Which ones are lord McCain’s rebels?


5 posted on 04/23/2017 5:37:27 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: arthurus

Motivational reasoning... more drastic than the mere decimation (10% reduction) used by the Romans in the waning days of the Roman Empire.

There have been several reports of unpleasant executions of retreating fighters in the past for exactly the reasons you said. Word gets around.


6 posted on 04/23/2017 5:39:07 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: arthurus

That is the mindset of the Jihadi’s.

That which has been seen cannot be unseen.

Locals and some “true believers” have seen a lot of what Islamist Terrorists really are. Some are disillusioned.

First instinct? Kill em all.

But it is no my call, only the Kurds and Arabs living there can judge the risk of not eliminating them all.

Kurds are not all Muslim, especially those in Northern Syria. All Arabs are not the same, many in Northern Syria have seen what ISIS Terrorists are and totally reject it.

So, this is a good sign.


7 posted on 04/23/2017 5:39:28 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: 2banana

Bump


8 posted on 04/23/2017 5:40:06 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Just mythoughts

Lord McCain owns them all. May it always haunt him.

He is vermin.


9 posted on 04/23/2017 5:40:44 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Just mythoughts

The Jihadi’s (ISIS and the Arab militias that McCain & Obozo hired to bring down Assad.)

SDF, YPG, YPJ never sought to overthrow Assad (Assad is bad guy but overthrow would bring worse to Syria).

I think Trump understands this. But Iran is a part of the mix. And a serious threat to Israel.


10 posted on 04/23/2017 5:53:05 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

The Kurds are very good fighters and very motivated


11 posted on 04/23/2017 5:59:28 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

Absolutely.

And I have learned that the Syrian Kurds are very good people. Have come to know some of them very well over the past 3 years.


12 posted on 04/23/2017 6:01:07 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

“Several Daesh [fighters] have been killed by their own inside of the city....

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Gee, what a shame.


13 posted on 04/23/2017 6:09:14 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: Texas Fossil

traitorous coward is more accurate


14 posted on 04/23/2017 6:09:24 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Bigg Red

No, we all agree. Quickest possible end to ISIS.


15 posted on 04/23/2017 6:41:41 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Nifster

which ones?


16 posted on 04/23/2017 6:42:40 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

I was referring to McShamey

Vermin wouldn’t associate with the likes of him


17 posted on 04/23/2017 8:08:50 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Texas Fossil

This has always been typical of real siege warfare. The human shields get hurt the most when the supply lines are really cut because the fighters come first.


18 posted on 04/23/2017 9:57:26 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The Reds decimated (classic definition) their own ranks during the Civil War for units that lost a battle or that retreated. I can’t stand when that word is used to mean “destroyed.” It shows the lack of education that infuses our society due to several generations of federal and union control of the public schools. It also shows the uselessness of English dictionaries since the Webster’s 2nd International.


19 posted on 04/23/2017 10:00:43 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus

I must confess, that for many years I myself thought it meant to move one decimal point to the right, i.e., reduce TO 10% (90% attrition) rather than to reduce BY 10%.

I suppose it was because of the way I heard the word used through the years... carelessly. Which, goes to prove your point.

Well anyway, I take consolation in the fact that I always get the usage of effect and affect right, LOL.


20 posted on 04/23/2017 10:03:29 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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