Skip to comments.This is the alt-right: Richard Spencerís horrifying abortion rant
Posted on 04/25/2017 6:19:55 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
For those of you wondering why Im writing another column about the alt-right, the reason is simple: Every time I do, people comment to explain why Im wrong. Those people, some of whom I used to know, are starting to buy what the alt-right is peddling. Some of them are brazen enough to inform me that I, as an active social conservative, should be smart enough to realize that the Jews, whom they somehow believe to be a homogenous and monolithic group, are responsible for all of the evils Western civilization faces. One of these people even wrote that Richard Spencer had opened his eyes.
For those of you who are fortunate enough not to have heard of him, Richard Spencer is the neo-Nazi who runs AltRight.com and has been attempting to hijack the conservative movement by cheerleading Donald Trump while promoting the same weird racial theories that gave rise to the Third Reich. He showed up uninvited at the Conservative Political Action Conference, palled around with Milo Yiannopoulos before Milos comments excusing man-boy sexual relationships (which were apparently too much for even him), and recently released a video bemoaning the treatment of The Blazes Tomi Lahren, the supposedly courageous commentator who conveniently chose The View to do an about-face on abortion.
In the video, Spencer mused that Lahren might be the alt-rights hope, since many conservatives have turned on her over the abortion issueand, he couldnt help but point out, she was blond. Spencer then launched into a monologue on abortion, which should forever silence those conservatives who feel the bizarre temptation to flirt with the alt-right and smash the asinine idea that any compatibility exists between these two ideologies:
"I think that some people who are in the alt-right want to believe that the anti-abortion crusade is just inherently traditionalist, that it is about making women take responsibility for their children, that its going to make women become mothers whether they like it or not I am a bit sceptical of this view that abortion would have inherently traditionalist consequences.
"I think when we think about abortion we often think about these careerist women who otherwise would be part of families but are instead having abortion out of pure selfishness and greed. The fact is that it isnt like that. Those highly intelligent career women will have abortions on occasion, but to be honest theyre using contraception and theyre avoiding pregnancy, is what theyre doing The people who are having abortions are generally very often black or Hispanic or [people] from very poor circumstances, to be honest."
In case you missed it, Spencer cant be opposed to abortion in all circumstances because he quite likes the idea that a lot of African Americans and Hispanics are having abortions. This is a common idea on the alt-rightAlymer Fisher wrote a long column warning his fellow alt-righters against succumbing to the pro-life temptation for precisely this reason. Its not families we care about, he warnedits white families. Back to Spencer:
" And so the anti-abortion crusade becomes this human rights crusade. And if you look at the writing of people like Ramesh Ponnuru (of National Review) it is directly associated with this that every being that is human has a right to life and so on. Well thats not how we think as identitarians, to be honest. You are part of a community, youre part of a family, youre part of a collective. You do not have some human right, some abstract thing given to you by God or by the world or something like that. Youre part of a community and thats where you gain your meaning or your rights.
" The anti-abortion crusade is often associated with family, the traditional family, but to be honest its descended into not just a human rights dogma but a kind of dysgenic 'we are the world' dogma."
If it werent all so grotesque, it might actually be funny that hardcore far-right kids are getting sucked into the alt-right, considering that Spencers trash theory simply replaces Marxs utopian collective with a racial collective. Communists gave us the gulags and fascists gave us the concentration camps, with plenty of overlap. Richard Spencer has handily highlighted one of the most overlooked aspects of alt-right ideology: In their view, you have no rights. Human rights dont exist. God doesnt, either, for that matter. (Dysgenic, by the way, refers to promulgating undesirable traits by allowing lesser specimens to reproduce, in case you werent clear on what Spencers opinion of non-white people was.) Spencer goes on:
"The most popular propaganda line for the pro-life movement is about black genocide, how this is destroying black communities and indeed is a racist plot by Margaret Sanger and so on. This gets to something that I think is a bigger point, and that is that the alt-right or identitarians, we cant think about these issues in this kind of good or evil binary. We actually have to think about an issue like abortion in a complicated manner, something that that issue deserves.
" Lothrop Stoddard talked about contraception, not so much abortion but contraception, as a potentially world-changingfor the goodtechnology, or something that could change the world for the worse. In a way he was absolutely right and I think contraception has to a large degree changed the world for the worse. Intelligent people will engage in family planning because they naturally have long time horizons, they think ahead. They arent just going to go run and have sex with someone without a condom and get them pregnant and so on
"In a way, contraception has been terribly dysgenic in the sense that it is only the smart people that really use it. Smart people are not using abortion as birth control. Smart people are using abortion when you have a situation like Down Syndrome or you have a situation where the health of the mother is at risk. I would say that it is the unintelligent and blacks and Hispanics who use abortion as birth control, as a kind of late-term birth control."
Lothrop Stoddard, in case you were wondering, is a long-dead eugenicist and Klansman who felt that coloured people posed a danger to white civilization, and is now resurrected so that neo-Nazis like Spencer can fangirl him. When Spencer does have a problem with abortion, as with contraception, its only because the wrong people are using it. White people, apparently, are so smart theyre not replacing their own population, which is of great concern to those obsessed with the promulgation of certain pigmentations. Spencer warns that this is doing great harm to the white race:
"We need to recognize this potential for both good and evil or good and bad within contraception itself, that this is something that can be a great boon for our people, for our race, or it can be a great detriment. Contraception has been a great detriment because precisely the people who shouldnt be using it are using it.
"We want smart people to have more children. I sometimes want smart people to be a little more reckless. Dont plan. Dont use a condom. What Im saying basically is the abortion issue is just a much more complicated issue than this kind of 'good or evil' binary that the pro-life movement and the Christian movement want to use. We need to be more adult than they are."
I just want to point out, for the second time, that the alt-right is incompatible with Christianity. You dont even have to take my word for it, take Spencers. He finishes off his little rant with a welcome repudiation of the pro-life movement:
"We should recognize that the pro-life movementthis is not the alt-right, this has nothing in common with identitarians, and I think we should be genuinely suspicious of people who think in terms of human rights and who are interested in adopting African children and bringing them to this country and who get caught up on this issue. We want to be a movement about families, about life in a deep sense, not just rights but truly great life, and greatness, and beautiful, flourishing, productive families. We want to be eugenic in the deepest sense of the word. Pro-lifers want to be radically dysgenic, egalitarian, multi-racial human rights thumpersand theyre not us."
Amen to thatwe most certainly are not. Spencers little rant is valuable, because it is brutally honest. Those who adopt children of a different race are race traitors. Those who believe in human rights cannot be part of the alt-right because some humans will have to be sacrificed for the good of the white collective. And just as in Nazi Germany, not even all white children will be safe, because the alt-right believes in eugenicsas Spencer mentioned earlier, smart people abort children with Down Syndrome. What Spencer has just described here is basically the Nazi idea of an Aryan super-race. Its hard to accuse someone of being a Nazi when they own the title so thoroughly.
I hope this reveals, yet again, why conservatives can find no common ground with the alt-right. I hope this explains why I find it so reprehensible and disgusting that commentators like Gavin McInnes are willing to give Richard Spencer a platformand multiple times, too. Conservatism is going through a time of upheaval, and we have to be extraordinarily vigilant. The alt-right is attempting to infiltrate the mainstream, using people like McInnes, and Milo, and others. If they manage to do it, conservatism is going to need chemotherapy.
Reprinted with permission from The Bridgehead.
Question: has Spencer always owned the term "alt-right"?
I believe Steve Bannon uses the term with a significantly different meaning. He would define it via nationalist slant on the issues of trade, immigration, and foreign wars: yes to economic protectionism, no to unresrticted immigration, no to "global cop" military intervention.
Perhaps simple-mindedly, I myself always assumed "alt-right" just meant more conservative than the RNC and National Review.
But I guess I may be wrong.
If the alt-right actually means what Richard Spencer says it means, I'm outtathere, and pronto.
Constitutional law and respect for private property and rights does not verge over into any form of fascism or racial supremacy. Fascism and progressivism/socialism are both on the far left end of the spectrum. George Washington, Abe Lincoln and Ronald Reagan are the far right.
I think “alt-right” is the new boogeyman slur that replaces “rightwing extremist”.
Basically racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, ie: anything not lockstep liberal.
Westboro Baptists call themselves Christians too.
This Spencer guy sounds like a fascist.
How does he know Tomi Lahren is blonde?
Has he checked?
This nation is founded on exactly that "abstract thing": "We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness"
If Spencer doesn't like it he can GTFO.
Sounds like a new version of William Pierce
The term is toxic and shouldn’t be used by people promoting constructive positions.
Spencer seems to be embracing eugenics, best as I can see. In which case why would he care so much about the status quo of abortion? It occurs most frequently among those that he seems to believe deserve the death toll.
At any rate we can’t prop up any worldly icon — not even Donald Trump — as the infallible moral compass of righteousness. Someone will find a way to abuse that icon.
This faction is, at best, as “Christian” as the hooded KKK was. They didn’t give two figs for Jesus with His inconvenient “for God so loved the world.”
At the least, don’t let the left tell you what it means. They lie.
Richard Spencer heads up The National Policy Institute, a White Nationalist hate group. He and his type have tried to hitch a ride on the Trump bandwagon, but truth is, Donald Trump wouldn’t have anything to do with these clowns. Unfortunately, some board members of Young America’s Foundation were involved in setting up the National Policy Institute, and one YAF Board Member was also on the board, and Vice President of NPI.
60,000,000 abortions in this country. They’d have us believe that an awful lot of pre viable kids threaten the health of the mother but that’s not true it’s a hoax, Beside the idea that it’s not ok to take tge life of the baby. I mean what about the mother being a threat to the life of the child
That’s just one minor reflection here.
Birth control is inherently evil and the evil abortion comes from that evil which even revered catholic pastors have been known to give a wink and a nod to, which is heresy
The initial reaction whenever someone tries to paint a Trump supporter as a racist/bigot/etc., even when that comes from a supposed conservative, should be skepticism.
I don’t know much about Spencer, and he may very well not be a Christian, but if the Liberals hate him (and it seems they can’t stand him as they won’t let him speak on college campuses with violent protests) — well I welcome him to help fight them. The disagreements can be sorted out after the Evil Left is defeated.
One of Trumps first actions was to de fund foreign abortion contributions. The press doesn’t discuss it. I could guess that’s because they dont want to discuss that our country’s overseeing the killing of 60 million of our own is a much greater. Umber when counting exportation of abortion
We have to deal with the uncomfortable truth that yes, white people do tend to get along better in this day and age and country.
The Christian thing is to ask how the blessing can be shared. Eugenicists tend to think it’s biological only. If this line of thought is followed, it will reduce blessings to monstrosities.
My idea, however humorous or strange, for sharing it, is to highlight a distinct category: rednecks. Who come in many colors. Now the philosophy that undergirded the phenomenon of white privilege can be everybody’s: humility, hard work, faith in God.
That would also snatch the redneck out of the clutches of the “alt-right.”
I don’t dispute that, however, anyone promoting constructive positions can choose a different name for their ideology.
Far too much of what is called “White Nationalism” is warmed over late 19th-early 20th century paganism and occultism with a thin veneer of race rationalism pulled tightly over it.
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