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It's Time to Get Rid of the Legislative Filibuster
Townhall.com ^ | May 3, 2017 | Terry Schilling

Posted on 05/04/2017 6:38:21 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: C210N

You are correct that this would destroy the Senate.

I think the better idea would be to abolish the 17th Amendment and then get rid of the fillibuster.

Then the GOP would have 66 seats in the Senate


21 posted on 05/04/2017 8:06:16 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The largest and most dangerous hate-group in the US is now the Democratic Party)
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To: Kaslin

The Constitution calls for simple majority votes. That’s the best reason to get rid of the filibuster.


22 posted on 05/04/2017 8:09:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: Kaslin
A politician's opinion of the filibuster rule seems to depend on whether his party is in the majority or minority. Democrats like the rule now because it gives them some power, if/when they get a Senate majority they will oppose it. Just as Republicans do.

Getting rid of the super-majority rule may look good now that Republicans have both the Presidency and Congress, but will it look so good a few years down the road when (inevitably) we go through another back and forth political cycle and get stuck with a slim majority of Democrats? The question people need to ask is whether they really want to give their party powers that the opposing party will get to use in a few years' time.

23 posted on 05/04/2017 8:13:02 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Avalon Memories

The filibuster is only a rule. It can be changed and changed back.

We should do away with the filibuster. If the Democrats love it so much they can reinstate it if/when they regain power in the Senate. Somehow, despite how much they seemingly cherish it now, I doubt they will do so.


24 posted on 05/04/2017 8:21:47 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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To: Personal Responsibility

I agree, but it isn’t going to happen because senators on both sides of the aisle hold the conceit that the Senate is special. “The world’s greatest deliberative body” and all that horse puckey. So they are reluctant to change or modernize the way the Senate does business. In reality, the Senate no longer serves its intended purpose and has become a fully corrupted, hyper-partisan mess with near lifetime tenure in many instances.


25 posted on 05/04/2017 8:53:44 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Compromise is NOT a dirty word. It's how human society functions every day.)
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To: JohnBrowdie
generally, I think we keep blaming politicians for the electoral decisions we make.

I've said as much quite a few times. We have RINO politicians because we have RINO voters etc. Having said that our politicians have failed in educating the voters.

26 posted on 05/04/2017 9:00:07 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Kaslin
Many have argued that eliminating the filibuster would be short-sighted, and that Republicans would regret it at some point in the future if/when they find themselves in the minority. But shouldn’t we be skeptical of this argument? After all, this is the Republican Party we're talking about. When have they been willing to filibuster and risk a government shutdown if it meant putting themselves at risk politically?

Bingo!

It all comes down to the fact that the Democrats aren't afraid to filibuster while the Republicans are. So either way, we lose and the Democrats ALWAYS get what they want.

What are the Republicans afraid of? The media of course. Like three-year-olds and monsters in their bedroom, they are afraid of their own shadows.

This all has to stop or else Trump will not MAGA.

Trump has signaled that he knows this. And Trump has put off tackling the problem now. So is he planning on playing hardball with the RINOs for a September showdown?

We shall see.

27 posted on 05/04/2017 9:00:24 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Helicondelta
The days of the filibuster are numbered. Republicans can either end it now or they can wait for the democrats to end it when they take control of the senate again.

The Dems have no need to end the filibuster when they take control because the Republicans never use it properly.

28 posted on 05/04/2017 9:02:19 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: JohnBrowdie
generally, I think we keep blaming politicians for the electoral decisions we make.

I don't agree.

Certainly some voters make incorrect electoral decisions.

But the correct number of voters voted for Trump, voted for a House Majority and voted for a Senate Majority.

It's time to get rid of the filibuster.

29 posted on 05/04/2017 9:06:02 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Very well said.


30 posted on 05/04/2017 9:08:52 AM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: FreeReign
It's time to get rid of the filibuster.

I shudder to think what we will lose next if the filibuster is gone, and we have Chuckles the Flight Attendant Abuser as senate majority leader.

recall that the filibuster is there to project the minority from getting steamrolled by the majority, and further recall that history teaches us that destructive social innovation is the liberals' specialty when they are in power.

the fillibuster has saved us more than it has obstructed us -- so much so that they had to trash their own precedent to get their health care hijacking rammed through the senate in year one of The Messiah.

31 posted on 05/04/2017 9:15:01 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: Kaslin

1. The filibuster was supposed to be hard to pull off—with someone talking nonstop for hours. not just- “I declare a filibuster”

2. The filibuster was supposed to be used by fairly honorable people, who would use it sparingly, not for a minority to block a majority on everything.

Get rid of it. You KNOW the dems would if they were in the same situation


32 posted on 05/04/2017 9:18:45 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (Modern day liberals are the most intolerant, hateful, and violent people in America)
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To: Kaslin

This is all a GOPe lie.

There is no filibuster allowed on a bill that has gone through The reconciliation process.

The house votes on a bill the senate votes on a bill that is completely different.

It goes to the conference committee where they hash out the differences and come up with a completely new bill made up of the ideas from both houses of congress.

Then they send that bill to the house And senate where it gets a straight up or down vote. The senate is not allowed to filibuster of reconciled bill. So there’s no excuse why they couldn’t pass a real budget other than they don’t want to.


33 posted on 05/04/2017 9:22:11 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Repeal & replace Obamacare, tax reform, fix infrastructure, fixin military, Israel, kill enemies)
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To: Kaslin
This is BS. The fillibuster is just an excuse.

Why are Republicans rushing to pass a budget that Democrats love?.

Well, sheesh, it's as obvious as the nose on your face. The Republicans love the budget too. Why does anyone think they wouldn't? Does anyone think that any significant number of them have some sort of altruistic view of serving the public good? The only serving any of them are interested in is a bigger serving.

34 posted on 05/04/2017 9:39:29 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: JohnBrowdie
the fillibuster has saved us more than it has obstructed us...

Get rid of the filibuster for appropriations bills. The Republicans are afraid to use it properly for that and the Democrats aren't afraid to use it.

35 posted on 05/04/2017 9:46:12 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Erik Latranyi
The filibuster is a pre-seventeenth amendment rule which serves no purpose to protect state's interests in a popularly elected Senate driven by party bloc interests.

-PJ

36 posted on 05/04/2017 9:56:34 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: FreeReign
This all has to stop or else Trump will not MAGA.

It's pretty clear now that the compromised Republican leadership is deathly afraid of allowing Trump to MAGA.

37 posted on 05/04/2017 9:58:40 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Kaslin

Why not just get rid of the Senate?


38 posted on 05/04/2017 9:58:59 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: Avalon Memories

McTurtle and the other RINOS won’t get rid if the filibuster because it would remove their last excuse and cover for why they’re ignoring Trumps priorities and continuing to enact a progressive uni-party agenda designed to destroy the country the conservative middles class.


39 posted on 05/04/2017 10:10:34 AM PDT by GOPe Means Bend Over Spell Run (GO GALT - VOTE TRUMP!!!)
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To: Avalon Memories
McTurtle and the other RINOS won't get rid if the filibuster because it would remove their last excuse and cover for why they're ignoring Trump's priorities and continuing to enact a progressive uni-party agenda designed to destroy the country and the conservative middles class.
40 posted on 05/04/2017 10:12:02 AM PDT by GOPe Means Bend Over Spell Run (GO GALT - VOTE TRUMP!!!)
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