Posted on 05/08/2017 8:52:31 AM PDT by marktwain
The BATFE ruling that firearms that are more than 26 inches in length, but are not manufactured to be fired from the shoulder, are neither pistols or shotguns or rifles, but merely “firearms” has resulted in a new type of defensive firearm.
The Remington Tac 14 is now available and has suggested retail price of $443.05. Store prices will likely be in the $400 range.
These type of firearms have been produced by small manufacturers for years. Two years ago, I predicted that the major manufacturers would come on board, if the small manufacturers proved popular.
At that time, I had not considered a Donald Trump Presidency. From the article two years ago:
The usual sequence is that when small manufacturers find a profitable market, large manufactures start production of their own models to take advantage of it. I will be watching to see if Mossberg or other large firms start offering pistol grip 12 gauge firearms of similar configurations.It is an interesting time, and I believe the end result will be reform of federal gun laws, to something far more rational and less burdensome than now exists.
The Trump Presidency has created a more firearms friendly legal environment. Both Mossberg and Remington have come out with this type of legal firearm. These firearm models make a mockery of the entire silly NFA regulatory scheme. From the previous article:
These short guns firing shotgun shells have obvious self defense applications. There is no reason why these guns should be treated any different than ordinary pistols. Functionally, they are either large pistols or small shotguns. Both shotguns and pistols are constitutionally protected by the Heller and McDonald decisions. There is no valid reason for treating these firearms any differently than other shotguns or pistols.
(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...
The entire bizarre scheme of NFA regulation is being shown as stupid, irrational, and antiquated.
Ruger came out with this around a year or two ago. Hickock45 did an episode on them. I wonder if a 20 gauge might me more functional than a 12 gauge for this type of weapon. It has less recoil and is more manageable, but would still deliver an incredible punch at man to man range.
Interesting. The one pictured in the article, if it were fitted with a 10rd magazine, would be a great home defense item and I would be interested.
It needs a upper stock above the barrel.............
this would do nicely in a 410 model (that can also shoot .45’s)
The Ruger one held 6 shells in its internal magazine and one in the pipe. Not bad for the small size.
Mossberg has a cut down version of the 590 for sale as well.
Yes. Do what the Ruskies tabS Saiga do and give it a ten round detachable mag placed in front of the trigger guard.
Firing a 12 gauge shotgun equipped with a pistol grip is a painful proposition unlike any other, and definitely not one for the faint-of-heart.
Now *everyone* can be a Trayvon, making an expedited withdraw at the liquor store..!!
Gimme a bandana..!
You're right. I said Ruger above and I meant Mossberg. My bad. Mossberg is the one Hickock45 did his episode on, not Ruger.
How many blue states have already moved to ban them?
“I wonder if a 20 gauge might me more functional than a 12 gauge for this type of weapon. It has less recoil and is more manageable, but would still deliver an incredible punch at man to man range.”
My wife and a couple of other female relatives are not capable of handling a 12 gauge. Two of them hunt birds and small game with 20’s. These are not puny gals, our nick names for them are Sturdy Women.
I have a pistol grip Mossberg 12 gauge. It kicks like a mule. But with a 16” barrel, it can be carried in my truck without a cc permit.
“I wonder if a 20 gauge might me more functional than a 12 gauge for this type of weapon”
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wasn’t there a similar little shotgun on the market years ago known as the “snake charmer” that used 20 gauge??
may have been “too short” to be legal, as I haven’t seen one on the market in years??
anybody hep me on this?
http://www.blackhawk.com/Products/Long-Gun-Accessories/Stocks/Shotgun/Knoxx-BreachersGrip-Gen-III.aspx
I have a comparable Mossberg 590. Overall length is 2.3” shorter, so of course it has to be intensely checked, registered, & monitored by the BATFE ... but a bit longer, and the above Tac 14 is barely even acknowledged as a firearm.
NFA must go.
922(o) must go.
I tried putting a pistol grip with no butt stock on my Winchester Defender. The recoil was bad enough that I replaced it with a full stock but still with pistol grip which is much easier for me to hold due to arthritis in my hands.
I can see the utility of the short barrel, pistol grip only but it is not my cup of tea.
My immediate thought on seeing the picture and reading just the beginning of the article was “I sure wouldn’t want to shoot that in 12ga, but 20ga might make for a useful piece of hardware.”
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