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Trump State Department Fights to Keep Clinton Benghazi E-mails Secret
The New American ^ | 08 May 2017 | Joe Wolverton, II, J.D.

Posted on 05/08/2017 4:53:41 PM PDT by detective

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That would be one good reason to resist releasing the emails.

Another possibility: it avoided creating the impression that the W.H. is “persecuting” HRC. Now, we see that the State Dept. was compelled to release the evidence.


41 posted on 05/08/2017 6:20:27 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yet another reason for State to resist releasing any emails: if they cooperated with such requests routinely — except when there was something to hide — then, every refusal to release documents would be accompanied by cries of “cover-up!”. By routinely resisting requests for information, no inferences can be drawn from any particular refusal.


42 posted on 05/08/2017 6:25:17 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: detective

Ley’s not get pissy just yet. I’m sure President Trump has a plan.


43 posted on 05/08/2017 6:25:44 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda�Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: detective

Great points.

Catch 22 redeux


44 posted on 05/08/2017 6:25:52 PM PDT by thinden
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Your explanation is NOT "plausible" and there are ways around making many things, in those E-mails public, sans exposing too much.
45 posted on 05/08/2017 6:35:13 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DoughtyOne

Giving with one hand and taking away with a battallion strenhgt team of 18 wheelers is NOT “winning”!


46 posted on 05/08/2017 6:38:06 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: TribalPrincess2U
I’m sure President Trump has a plan.

Too bad that plan is to betray the promises of Candidate Trump.

Instead of lock her up we now have, lock her e-mails up.


47 posted on 05/08/2017 6:39:19 PM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
Too bad that plan is to betray the promises of Candidate Trump.

Dude, will you please cease your unhinged #NeverTrump masturbation?

Nobody wants to see that...

48 posted on 05/08/2017 6:44:22 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: nopardons

NoPardons, I cannot simply watch folks carp about Trump day after day and not address it.

We’ve had 110 days for folks to “get over it”, (Trump being elected), but some folks have convinced themselves that there is scandal after scandal with Trump.

There are threads every single day ragging on Trump or his daughter or her husband.

What are folks like me supposed to do? We’re on a Conservative forum with a president who has been implementing Conservative policy, and a certain group of folks who have refused to acknowledge good policy is being implemented.

This is the best president we’ve had in 30 years, but you couldn’t tell it by what has been posted on the forum.

Despite good policy being implemented, Ivanka and Jared are addressed as if Satan incarnate. It’s gotten very old.

Trump is implementing his/our agenda, and yet folks are addressing things as if Ivanka and Jared were co-presidents without Trump in the mix at all.

Enough is enough!

What do you folks want?

I had to address one guy a few minutes ago for not wanting to acknowledge the good Trump has done, but sill wanting to fixate on Ivanaka and Jared.

We have tried to link to positive things after folks saying something that wasn’t true. We have tried explaining that Ivanka and Jared haven’t done anything wrong. It just doesn’t matter. They are despised, and no amount of explaining in a rational way that they aren’t getting their way will be accepted. Truth doesn’t matter.

We have been patient as can be allowing the time to pass hoping folks would see that all the talk of the Kurshners ruining Trump’s administration was unfounded. Now 110 or so days in, the anti-Ivanka and Jared folks still won’t admit to themselves that Trump is doing what we wanted.

How long do folks need. 100 days? Four months? Six months? 12 months? Two years?

When does it stop?

We’re a Conservative forum and Conservative policy is being implemented. When are folks going to come around to realizing that?

I didn’t single you out. I just happened to run into you.

It has come time to put this nonsense behind us. Those of us who support Trump have been very patient for the most part. This needs to stop.


49 posted on 05/08/2017 6:52:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: detective

I don’t believe this. So Trump defies this judge yet complies with the idiots on the 9th Circus? No....there’s more to this than we know.


50 posted on 05/08/2017 6:53:03 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: Home of the Free because of the Brave)
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To: nopardons

Listen carefully. I’m not just spitting out concepts that are over your head.

Trump is implementing his agenda. He IS NOT implementing Ivanka and Jared’s agenda.

You’re colorful mention of 18 wheelers may make sense to someone, but it sure didn’t to me.

If you want to look at the things Trump has done that are good, there are lists all over the place.

If you can read those and still feel the need to complain, the fault is not with Trump.


51 posted on 05/08/2017 7:03:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: DoughtyOne
I have NOT complained nor trashed, or even "carped about the president for 100+ days and you know it;or should!

OTOH, neither am I going to join in with those who refuse to see and talk/post about his damned BLIND SPOT and/or make ridiculous excuses for him.

Are you implying that I'm NOT Conservative, that I haven't posted about the good things, and that MY opinions aren't as "good" as yours?

You want me and others to shut my eyes and just shut up about Ivanka and Jared, because WHY ? Should we all just be like those who claim that Obama is the "MESSIAH". can do NO wrong, EVER, no matter what? WE USED TO MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT, here!

There was a time, here, when "friends" couched their replies to each other, in "softer" terms. You went after me, tooth an nail, a while back, because you disagreed with my FACTUAL post and haven't stopped. I've tried to stand by the old rule with you; however, this shan't last much longer;especially since you've lumped me in with a group I don't belong in.

You used to be better than this. Pity that you suddenly have gone blind.

52 posted on 05/08/2017 7:18:05 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’re covering up for selling missiles to terrorists. Then they covered up the orders. What possible national security interest is there the would deny us the truth


53 posted on 05/08/2017 7:23:54 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: nathanbedford

Yeah, yeah. Only Trump knows what he can and can’t at this time. He needs more time. obama had 8 years. You think Trump can do it in a few months!
Get real.


54 posted on 05/08/2017 7:35:56 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda�Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: nopardons

I don’t follow you around the forum checking up on what you’re posting. I run into you pulling the Ivanka Jared routine and I call you on it.

Blind spot? Who has the blind spot?

Trump has spent 110 (about) days implementing our political wet-dreams, and all some folks can do is carp about the Kushners.

ENOUGH ALREADY!

We’ve read volumes on their supposed crimes against humanity. We’ve heard every pipe dream folks could dream up. We’re running on 100+ retreads at this point.

You are not the only people who know the situation. We all know the supposed crimes of these two. N O T H I N G !

You can’t point to a single E.O. or bill they have coerced the president into signing against our better judgement.

Shut your eyes. For heaven’s sake, just shut your damned mouths.

How many freakin times do I have to read about Ivanka talking Trump into bombing Syria, after hearubg her say she and her father did talk about it, but they were of a same mind on the issue and she didn’t talk him into anything? 100, 500, 10,000 more times?

As for friends using softer comments, I’ve been watching folks trash the Kushers non-freakin-stop for going on four months now. When does it end?

There’s nothing new. There’s nothing of real substance to any of it.

What forum do you suggest the supporters of Trump go to, to discuss him without having to read rant after rant after rant after rant after rant after rant citing rehashed issues we’ve all seen countless times before that didn’t make sense the first times they were foisted off on the forum?

Who asked you to stop posting this nonsense for the first 10, 20, 30, 45, 75 days?

On and on and on and on and on...

Do you folks remember having said the same danged things all these times? We do.

How about we make a deal. When something new comes out, trash them again then.

Until then, take a breather.


55 posted on 05/08/2017 7:49:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: HarleyLady27
"This article, written by ??? I have never heard of them have you??? "

~~~~~~~~~~

"The New American" = house organ for the John Birch Society.

...and it has been around a l-o-n-g time...

56 posted on 05/08/2017 8:04:48 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad!! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"They may be protecting sources and methods in the interest of national security. Did that occur to you?"

Could be. I guarantee that is something the State Department under Hillary Clinton never considered to be of importance. See

https://youtu.be/YTKLHUI-duc...

57 posted on 05/08/2017 8:11:42 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad!! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Since I've never claimed, nor even inferred that you stalk me/follow me around this site looking to engage me in a flame war, or whatever, you are LYING THRO9UGH YOUR TEETH about that this and a lot of other things you have been posting to and about me.

You have overstepped the bounds, your posts, to me, are beyond the pale, and repeating the same crap, isn't doing your supposed argument any good at all.

You've become an hysteric and it isn't becoming. It's probably time for you to take some time off; you need to collect your thoughts and calm down. Trump isn't the new "demi-god" dear leader. He isn't "perfect" and yes, has a huge blind spot. Ignoring it all helps nobody; least of all him and especially not us.

As many people have said, for most of the history of this nation, yes, he has a steep learning curve to over come ( which I foolishly did NOT believe would be this problematical ), because he has never held any elected office, nor commanded an army ( though the presidents who were generals, had problems too...including Washington...but Washington was put in a position unheard of, before ! ), he has had problems in a few areas, others wouldn't have had. Still and all, I haven't vociferously complained, nor even posted much if anything about that.

I have posted quite a number of "atta boy" and cheering on post re much of what Trump has done. But you have been blind to all of that. Bless your heart....

58 posted on 05/08/2017 8:19:56 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DoughtyOne

+1


59 posted on 05/08/2017 8:22:44 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: nopardons

I never said you did infer I stalk you. You did say that you say decent things about Trump all the time. I haven’t seen them, but then I don’t follow you around. That was the point.

You are pulling the same routine with me now, that you pull on Ivanka and Jared. You misunderstood the implications of my comments and you went postal in reaction. You misinterpret the actual threat of Ivanka and Jared, and you go postal on that.

This rant of yours is essentially an old Emily Latella script.

“Oh! Never-mind!”

I didn’t imply what you think I did. You ran with it anyway. It didn’t make sense once you bought into that false premise.

Yes, I’ve been blind to it because I don’t follow you around on the forum. I told you that. You took that to mean that I was responding to a charge you made about stalking.

You didn’t make a point like that, and therefore I couldn’t have been responding to it.


60 posted on 05/08/2017 8:30:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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