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Knowingly exposing others to HIV should no longer be a felony, state Senate says [CA]
Los Angeles Times ^ | 5/31/17 | Patrick McGreevy

Posted on 06/01/2017 1:53:00 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: markomalley

The issue here is that a disproportionally large percentage of the more at risk gay community are infected with HIV and wish to supplement their incomes by selling their blood and body fluids. The selling of blood, blood plasma and body fluids is common form of income supplementation among lower income residents.

Whole blood is on the tip of the iceberg of commercial blood related products - see article

http://washington.providence.org/hospitals/regional-medical-center/services/blood-management-conservation/fractions-of-blood/

Senator Wiener is not trying to enable altruistic donations, wants to enable the ability of HIV positive people to freely engage in the commercial selling of their blood int the American blood supply without any restrictions.

Since donating blood and body fluid products is increasingly a for profit commercial activity for private individuals to supplement their incomes, it actually needs more scrutiny and regulation than it currently does and the knowing sale of contaminated blood needs to have more, not less, serious criminal penalties.


21 posted on 06/01/2017 3:35:39 AM PDT by rdcbn (.... when Poets buy guns, tourist season is over ...)
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To: Pollster1
This will increase the medical risk to gay men in California. If President Trump did this, they would say he wanted more gays to die. If someone else does it and pretends it’s compassionate, they’re okay with it.


The indiscriminate sale of HIV tainted blood was pioneered by Bill Clinton when he was Gov of Arkansas .

He pressured the prisons to indiscriminately collect blood from inmates, which he sold to blood banks, especially to Canada. There were kick backs to Clinton and Clinton cronies involved. This Gov Clinton scam is almost solely responsible for pretty much wiping out the hemophiliac population of Canada

22 posted on 06/01/2017 3:41:33 AM PDT by rdcbn (.... when Poets buy guns, tourist season is over ...)
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To: stockpirate

Could you imagine that this is even being debated, never mind supported publicly?

This is pure evil, not insanity. The latter gives a medical excuse; I don’t.


23 posted on 06/01/2017 3:55:45 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

HIV is a problem only because of politics. Had the handful of homos been quarantined when it first showed up, and their sex partners tracked down and also quarantined, it would have been over in the 80’s.


24 posted on 06/01/2017 3:58:50 AM PDT by anton
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To: anton

So true.

For years I’ve lived as though it didn’t even exist; after the deaths of some true innocents from tainted blood early on, it became a truly preventable infection. Now they insist on having high-risk people in the military (imagine serving as a medic today?), and they want to lift the ban on gay men donating blood. Despite living a lifestyle that had practically 0% chance of infection, I guess we’ll all be exposed now.

FWIW, the homo lobby has always resented that this is regarded as a gay issue. While others may get it (needle users, etc.); gays have always been the majority of those with AIDS in the US.


25 posted on 06/01/2017 4:04:59 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: markomalley

Homosexuals are just normal, everyday people.


26 posted on 06/01/2017 4:15:23 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: markomalley
Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco), who said it is unfair to make HIV/AIDS the only communicable disease given such harsh treatment by prosecutors.

OK, just add Ebola to that list, so the HIV carriers won't feel singled out unfairly. /s

27 posted on 06/01/2017 4:20:20 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: markomalley

It should be a capital offense.

It is attempted murder at the very least. Murder if someone is infected.


28 posted on 06/01/2017 4:24:26 AM PDT by sipow
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To: markomalley
Filthy Disease Ridden Queers delenda est...
29 posted on 06/01/2017 4:25:01 AM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: markomalley

Set down 10 syringes of blood. Only one is HIV positive. Request the idiot Senator to pick a syringe with which to be injected. He shouldn’t have any problem with this request, after all it’s what he is proposing for the general public.


30 posted on 06/01/2017 4:26:03 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("Daddy, what did you do in the Deep State War?")
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To: markomalley

to make gays feel ‘special’ we’re going to contaminate the blood bank with immunosuppressive viruses? Where in the blazes did these people hatch from?


31 posted on 06/01/2017 4:29:45 AM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: markomalley

I feel exceptionally sorry for those who grew up in California under the conservative leadership of Governor Ronald Reagan. And the Central Valley folks still there. As a NY State conservative I understand. But it appears that no state can out looney-left, California.


32 posted on 06/01/2017 4:37:51 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: kearnyirish2

The origin of HIV, I believe anal sex with monkeys, is not exactly a homo origin. But, if the lore is true, the locals who were raping the monkeys then had homo sex with tourists who brought it back, which in my book makes it a homo disease. And the fact that male prostitutes to the homo trade are IV drug users should not have surprised anyone.

The whole thing is a sordid disgusting episode which gives us innocents way too much information about their disgusting lifestyle. Its hard to have sympathy with a person who would go to a gay bath house or bar to let 10 or 20 strangers give them anal sex.

(Anton vomits)


33 posted on 06/01/2017 4:43:11 AM PDT by anton
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To: Mr_Moonlight

Good description. But you left off “corruption”.


34 posted on 06/01/2017 4:50:27 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: markomalley

AIDS Pride and all that.

This has been in the works for years.

So much for informed consensual sexual relations.

“Welcome to the world of AIDS”

#TyphoidMaryWasWronged


35 posted on 06/01/2017 5:09:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The so-called mainstream media resembles a sixth grade lunchroom these days.)
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To: markomalley

The Democrat Party is sliding into a death spiral that includes grasping at the mentally ill as a new voting bloc. This is clearly a manifestation of the general sickness within the Democrat Party.


36 posted on 06/01/2017 5:10:13 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: markomalley

” and the bill would also apply to people who donate blood or semen without telling the blood or semen bank that they have acquired immunodeficiency syndrome”

Clearly this is designed to INCREASE the number of heterosexuals with AIDS, including the young and the old.


37 posted on 06/01/2017 5:10:21 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The so-called mainstream media resembles a sixth grade lunchroom these days.)
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To: markomalley

Are IV drug abusers also granted the right to spread this disease? Or just homofascists?


38 posted on 06/01/2017 5:11:16 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The so-called mainstream media resembles a sixth grade lunchroom these days.)
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To: rdcbn

Does the FDA get a say in this?

Don’t “medical devices” get regulated by them?

How could blood and semen be exempted for oversight?


39 posted on 06/01/2017 5:15:11 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The so-called mainstream media resembles a sixth grade lunchroom these days.)
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To: markomalley

Terrorists of all varieties are thrilled that knowingly exposing people to a life threatening disease is just a misdemeanor in California.


40 posted on 06/01/2017 5:21:40 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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