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Should Everyone Be Allowed to Enroll in Medicaid?
Forbes.com ^ | 06/07/17 | John C. Goodman

Posted on 06/21/2017 9:24:04 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX

As for Medicaid, about two-thirds of enrollees nationwide are in privately managed plans and the states have turned to private contracting for the same reasons we did in Medicare: the private plans are cheaper and better.

So on the evidence, it would appear that conservative Republicans don’t have much to lose by allowing a public option and they may have something to gain – allowing those currently enrolled in public programs to leave and enroll in better private sector alternatives.

Here’s the catch. The competition must be on a level playing field. That means we can’t have private plans exposed to the risk of bankruptcy while the public plans have an unlimited access to taxpayer bank accounts. Also, neither type of plan can be allowed to dump its sickest, most costly enrollees on the other – without financial compensation.

So here is a proposal. Let Medicaid (excluding the blind, disabled and elderly) be a public option in the individual market. This means that private Medicaid plans (which already enroll about two-thirds of Medicaid patients) would become competing plans. Anyone could enroll – even Bill Gates (something Democrats should like) and anyone could leave them and join some other private plan (something Republicans should like).

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: insurance; medicaid

1 posted on 06/21/2017 9:24:05 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX

nope


2 posted on 06/21/2017 9:29:06 PM PDT by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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To: b4me

Now, now, read the article first. :-)


3 posted on 06/21/2017 9:31:33 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. ~ Hosea 8:7)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Medicare pays doctors 50 cents for a dollar of service. They would close up shop if this happened.


4 posted on 06/21/2017 9:38:30 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Less gov. interference in our lives.....not more.


5 posted on 06/21/2017 9:43:59 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

This is retarded.


6 posted on 06/21/2017 9:50:59 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Some folks who signed up for Covered California expecting full or partially subsidized Zerocare, were shifted to the state Medi-cal (Medic-aid) rolls. Many of these folks weren’t qualified for Medi-cal because they exceeded income and/or asset ceilings, but did qualify for Zerocare subsidies.

After the State arbitrarily switched these folks, pre-Medicare age recipients started receiving rather terse form letters saying that the State intended to attach the recipient’s estate for the costs and would chase their estate down in other states’ if the recipient relocated - even insisting California be notified if the recipient moved out of state.

Otoh, I’ve never seen any disclosure from the State that defines what the actual monthly Medi-cal premium liability is to the recipient. In essence, it’s buying blind. Getting switched back to Zerocare has been a mess for many, leaving recipients with concerns there will still be a financial liability against their estates for an unknown sum they shouldn’t have been liable for to begin with since they signed up for Zerocare not welfare. We all know how states are once they decide you owe them money, and I’m not sure how they’re going to handle things once Calif goes single-payer because they’re not saying.

I hope people watch their own states like hawks to make sure that estate impoundment and funny business targeting the assets of pre-Medicare seniors isn’t part of their own state plans because it’s one heck of a trap.


7 posted on 06/21/2017 10:08:58 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Pining_4_TX

As long as we have a federal reserve that can create unlimited debt in a completely printed currency with manipulated interest rates, progressives and Fed.gov can have any social-engineering scheme the can think of


8 posted on 06/21/2017 10:23:35 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Pining_4_TX
Uh, no.🤔
9 posted on 06/21/2017 10:39:53 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: aimhigh

Medicare pays doctors closer to about $0.12 for a dollar of service. But this is a total distortion because the reimbursement rates are so low that the doctors have to charge significantly more than the services worth so the whole system is completely distorted. The reimbursement rates are embarrassing, they are ghastly. It is like a system where you walk into a restaurant and the menu says the meal cost $375 but you get an 88 percent discount.


10 posted on 06/21/2017 11:25:14 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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To: Pining_4_TX

This is hilarious. Any government program that has as one of its requirements “no gaming the system” has already admitted failure. This would quickly become a tax payer financed public to private wealth transfer. Of course this lunatic would then claim but “gaming the system” was against regulations. Haha, hoho, lol, what a tool the author is.


11 posted on 06/21/2017 11:26:18 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Pining_4_TX

I’m still stuck on the previous question:

Should government be allowed to provide insurance?

To which my answer is no.

This precludes me from answering the current question.


12 posted on 06/22/2017 3:40:26 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Pining_4_TX
I scanned the article. It said nothing about if getting health care insurance would be mandatory. If it weren't mandatory, policies would emerge that would allow people to have the coverage they want, or none at all. Then, it would be up to the insurance companies to do what they do best...convince people to sign up for policies through effective advertising and positive perceptions about coverage.

I'd wager that most people who don't want insurance would sign up for a high deductible policy that only covers catastrophic situations.

13 posted on 06/22/2017 3:48:17 AM PDT by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: aimhigh

“Medicare pays doctors 50 cents for a dollar of service”

Doesn’t matter when you lower the bar on obtaining a Medical license and import third world Doctor’s whom would be happy to earn 60k a year.


14 posted on 06/22/2017 3:58:11 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: FreedomNotSafety

More likely, a private to public wealth transfer.

But still ghastly—from financial, medical, and freedom perspectives.


15 posted on 06/22/2017 4:02:42 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: grania

A public option for all would completely undermine the free market. A disastrous idea even if voluntary (at first, of course, until the free market collapses). Pretty much like free public school for all.


16 posted on 06/22/2017 4:17:57 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
medicaid pays even less than medicare...
17 posted on 06/22/2017 2:48:16 PM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

He’s not a lunatic. He is a rather intelligent man, free market advocate. I believe he is trying to come up with a solution here that is politically possible. As long as Americans think government should solve their problems and provide for them, we won’t have a true free market in health insurance or care.


18 posted on 06/22/2017 9:33:13 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. ~ Hosea 8:7)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Profoundly stupid. Medicaid enrollees now cannot find doctors to see them, so their "insurance" is useless. This will only get worse. Second, assuming that a medicaid enrollee can find a provider, whee does his reimbursement come from? Same as always-- the taxpayer. IOW nothing new under the sun. Same ol' same ol'.
19 posted on 06/22/2017 9:40:33 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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