Posted on 06/23/2017 4:29:26 PM PDT by George - the Other
"Using those criteria, you could reasonably make the case that someone should be compensated for developing leukemia after eating a peanut butter sandwich"
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It would help if there were any long-term, double blind safety and efficacy studies of vaccines. There aren’t any. The VAERS database is full of adverse health reports and yet only 1% to 10% actually get reported. The federal vaccine Court has paid out billions in compensation, despite few parents knowing about it, and the bar being set so high that few who apply succeed.
to get the shot you must sign a pharmaceutical company hold harmless that absolutely prohibits any law suit for any reason.
other wise you die
Maybe even the Black Plague could make a comeback.
English common law. Not Western. Despite all the multi cultural crap the best part of our law and govt still has its roots in Magna Carta and the English bill of rights. The Rights of Man, actually the work of Jefferson did not really survive teTerror and Napoleon.
So this will lead to fewer children being immunized in Europe at a time when they are being swamped by children and adults from foreign countries with a host of communicable diseases.
Maybe even the Black Plague could make a comeback.
E.U. < > P.U.
As I understand it, the Black Plague is now treatable with anti-biotics.
I do believe you’ve got the right idea though.
Something else equally devastating could come in. This flooding of the region is the perfect cover for an act of terrorism along those lines too.
I’ll pass on the shot and the hold harmless. Not a fan of forced medical treatment
“Not a fan of forced medical treatment”
My winning argument is this : “I won’t allow any person or group of people to hold my family down and sing Christmas carols to them. Once we say ‘force’ we mean force.”
I’m not anti-vaccine. I am, however, against holding anyone down against their will and doing anything to them. And before anyone gets this far with my wife and child, you can assume I’ll be in a body bag.
It is far worse here. The only product in this country for whom the manufacturer carries no liability is vaccines. And since vaccine damage can take hours, days, or longer, the government lawyers fight as much as they can to avoid paying out damages for seriously injured or dead children. And yet they pay out billions a year anyway, in the few cases that make it through.
It is insane to inject newborns under a year old with neurotoxins. Bad effects could affect their schooling in subtle ways, their social abilities, could increase their risk of neurodegenerative diseases in the last decade of life, which destroys the whole family. The child’s immune system isn’t built enough yet.
Vaccines are NOT immunization no matter how many times the media calls them that. Most vaccines have partial effect for some time. That is all.
There are unknown factors that make the difference between a child who can handle a vaccine with no bad effects, and one who cannot. Probably the bacterial biome and any invading viruses or bacteria within make that difference. We do not have the science known enough yet to be able to test each toddler for their bacterial population or to know which protect against the onslaught. Because of that, children should be vaccinated very sparingly, around two years of age, and should be fed a rich diet of pro and pre biotics and be in perfect health before any vaccine.
Millions not billions
I’m with you. It might surprise you to know that there is a cadre of posters in this forum that believe that your view is borderline criminal, and that your children should be taken from you if you seek a conscience exemption. This, despite the fact that no state that I am aware of has CPS rules which allow this. Here in Texas our legislature actually strengthened the rules against CPS trying that stunt, in the 2017 regular session just completed. Yet the mandatory vaxxers would tell us that they must all be a bunch of liberals (we have a R supermajority in the state house LOL)...
When you look for "information" at anti-vax websites, you should fact-check it before spreading it any further.
The lie that safety and efficacy studies are not performed on vaccines is very easily debunked. www.pubmed.gov, search term "vaccine safety studies": 4710 results. "vaccine efficacy studies" gives 7724 results. "vaccine safety and efficacy studies" only gives 1601 results. These results do not include all of the trials that were conducted by the pharmaceutical companies in order to satisfy FDA requirements for licensure.
But the anti-vax zealots would never let a little truth interfere with their efforts to bring back deadly diseases.
The effort to wipe out deadly diseases is doomed if people are allowed, without a shred of evidence, to blame vaccines for every disease that their children develop.
The anti-vaxxers may get their wish yet, for children to die by the millions of preventable diseases—just like they did a century ago, just like they still do in areas where it is difficult to bring vaccines to children. Once upon a time, people had large families to maximize their chance of having a child or two reach adulthood. That strategy didn’t always work—sometimes a disease would wipe out every child in a family. With the tireless efforts of anti-vax zealots, we can experience those halcyon days again.
I am all for vaccines. They clearly work, and in a few cases, have eliminated, or nearly so, some scourges.
I am rather concerned about these newer vaccination schedules. Many of these vaccines are given when infants are barely immunocompent, if at all. Waiting a couple of years before starting these courses of injections might prove to be a wiser procedure. There will be some small increase in infections, especially in those children exposed to non-immunized carrier adults, but even that could be managed through better hygiene and vetting of aliens.
This politically correct vaccine policy indirectly supports global warming alarmism imo.
And yet, our state legislature here in Texas, with a conservative supermajority (or close to it), passed a number of laws increasing parental choice.
The California state legislature, with a far left liberal Democrat (like you) supermajority, removed parental choice in relation to vaccines.
The parental choice lobby groups have virtually no financial resources. The drug/vaccine lobby groups have virtually unlimited resources. And yet, here in Texas at least, we are winning.
In other news, Dr. Burzynski kept his medical license and so can continue treating and curing serious/terminal cancer. The TMB (star chamber) was thwarted for about the 4th time.
The conventional drug/vaccine/medical lobby are SCUM.
Vaccine Zealot alert. Cleanup needed on aisle 3.
I deleted several long missives to your screeds only because this is jims house, I know what it means to be offensive in jims house. I've dealt with your kind for 23 years now. My 25 year old Autistic Son expresses his deep desire to pump you full of Thimerasol (sic) preservative, just enough to fry your single brain cell, of course if you had 2 you could shake your head hard enough to spark a cogent thought. That's his search for a 'little truth' (one I have extended to countless numbers of your vaccine zealot peers, right to their very faces). My missives are so much more barbaric that I dare not post them on jimrobs forum. exDem, my tired a$$. Know this and pass it along to your vaccine zealot peers, you WILL NEVER get near me or mine again with your vaccines and I know that will eat at ya! I'm all the happier to let you know it. Ask your vaccine zealot peers to point out the most obnoxious most ill tempered man they have ever encountered, then you will know my name.
If, by "winning," you mean that anti-vaxxers are gaining ground in their fight to bring back the diseases that used to kill and maim countless millions of children throughout history until researchers started developing vaccines to protect them, that is a "win" that very few people support.
*Most* parents want their children to grow up healthy. This is why the anti-vax movement has so few resources. Other than rich anti-humanists like that Kennedy kid (RFK?), there are few advocates for killing off children with deadly diseases.
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