Posted on 07/25/2017 8:18:31 AM PDT by GIdget2004
Tuesday’s Senate vote on health care will be a turning point in the GOP's long and difficult effort to fulfill their campaign promise to undo Obamacare, but the final outcome appears likely to end up as a “skinny” repeal that disposes of just a few components of the Affordable Care Act.
The first key vote will take place at some point this afternoon to open debate on the health care measure. If that “motion to proceed” passes, the Senate will then move on to debate and vote on a variety of approaches to the bill, beginning with a vote on the 2015 version of the repeal of Obamacare, according to two Senate sources. That vote is expected to fail.
After that, the Senate will move on to a vote on the current replacement bill, the Better Care Reconciliation Act, with the addition of an amendment from Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, that allows the sale of catastrophic plans and an amendment by Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, that would add $100 billion in additional spending on Medicaid.
But the BCRA amendment is likely to need 60 votes because neither the Cruz nor the Portman amendment have been scored by the Congressional Budget Office, meaning it’s likely to fail because it would need Democratic votes.
The plan after those two votes, according to sources, is for senators to proceed to votes on a series of amendments to create what leadership has called a “skinny” repeal with the goal of eliminating Obamacare's individual mandate penalty, employer mandate penalty and the tax on medical devices.
The Senate would then go to conference with the House of Representatives where they would work out a final bill. Both chambers would then have to vote on the reconciled bill.
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Those who do not keep their word are known as liars.
I’d bet one part they keep is the one that says health insurance is a right and the government should pay to make sure everyone gets insurance.
Obamacare didn’t make health insurance a right, but once the Rs sign on, it may as well be an amendment up there with the 1st, 2nd, 14th or whichever one any specific politician cares about. It will never go away and it will gradually include more and more of the population.
Face it: the Republican party is garbage. They lie their ass off. They have zero intention of repealing ACA. They have zero intention of uprooting the seed the Democrats planted. No, they will allow it to grow, and they will prune it so that it may be healthy and thrive. They will give ACA all the TLC it needs.
The Republicans can go the hell. They are enemies no less than Democrats.
0bamacare cannot stand on its own.
“On July 9, 2013, Fairholme Funds, Inc., a mutual fund that held preferred stock issued by the Federal National Mortgage Association, commonly known as “Fannie Mae,” and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation, commonly known as “Freddie Mac,” filed suit against the U.S. government in the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, seeking “just compensation” under the Fifth Amendment for their property when the Obama administration, in the so-called “Net Worth Sweep” of 2012, confiscated all Fannie and Freddie profits.
In 2008, when the economy went into recession over the collapse of the subprime mortgage market, Congress passed the Housing and Economic Recovery Act, HERA, to save Fannie and Freddie by a federal bailout that placed the two Government Sponsored Entities, GSEs, into government conservatorship, with the U.S. Treasury recapitalizing Fannie and Freddie by issuing to the GSEs $187.5 billion in senior preferred stock with a 10% dividend designed to repay the U.S. Treasury over time.
But in 2012, when Fannie and Freddie became profitable, as the mortgage market returned with rigorous credit underwriting and a zero-interest rate environment maintained by the Federal Reserve, the Obama administration initiated a “Net Worth Sweep,” designed to confiscate 100% of the profits generated by Fannie and Freddie.
The result was that private shareholders like Fairholme Funds were paid nothing on their Fannie and Freddie stock.”
https://www.infowars.com/lawsuit-obama-robbed-private-investors-to-fund-obamacare/
If they just repealed the individual mandate, that would be a win.
Liberal media is just wild about the “skinny repeal” LOL!
Three tweaks and one of them is a simple tax repeal?
No commitment to the free market to fix this 15% of our economy, and without restoring the free market we are certain to slide to a fully socialized system.
Reading that the most important and sensible measures will be alowed to fail, while the republicans investigate their own president, is imho the death knell of the republican party.
Think about it, republicans control everything and I mean most states also, and their reps in Congress are so evil and pathetic they are going to throw the whole party in the garbage.
Anything less than a full repeal of this blatantly unconstitutional POS is a major loss.
This crap wasn’t implemented incrementally, it was forced upon us in one sudden blow.
The U.S. government has no constitutional authority to be in the insurance business, or the wealth redistribution business more accurately, so the only possible positive outcome is to rip it out by the roots.
Cheating bastards. Thank goodness for Senators Cruz and Paul; the only ones who have played it straight from the git-go.
I’m dreaming, but the bastards need to vote away their exemption from having to use the product they foist upon us.
The impossible dream is to remove restrictions to sell across state lines, something the insurance companies want to keep in place. In DC, there are two parties - the trial lawyers (Dems) and the insurance companies (RINOs).
Yep. There should be a new “patriot party”, or whatever founded. For a presidential cycle or two they may only coalesce around certain Republicans on the ballot in various states, but they should be working toward the outright replacement of the GOP, which is hopelessly compromised as the jr partner in the uniparty.
Some states, such as NY, allow such parties to be on the ballot with a second listing for another candidate, such as the GOP candidate. But in other cases such a party will only be able to prevail once a winning candidate from the GOP turns to the new party apparatus that has been built first as a national endorser and influencer within the GOP.
We have allowed the mess to increase for over half a century. It cannot be completely fixed in a day.
All anyone needs to know is that obama’s buttboy Gruber said they had to rely on the “stupidity of the American voter” to get obama’s death legislation passed. It’s on video!! Why aren’t Republicans sceaming this?!
He actually stated they would have to “lie to get it passed” and they did!
REPEAL THE MONSTROSITY OF OBAMACARE! IT WAS BUILT ON LIES!
THEY HAD TO PASS IT TO SEE WHAT WAS IN IT!!
Obamacare won’t be repealed, because it can’t be repealed - or, more exactly, it can’t be repealed without ushering in huge Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate.
Members of Congress don’t know much, but they can count votes like a pimp in a whorehouse can count money.
Yes, the voters “hate Obamacare and want it repealed”. That is absolutely true.
It’s also true that they want the ability to buy insurance for pre-existing conditions, want insurance companies to be forbidden to cancel policies for non-payment, want zero payment at the point of service, want their adult children who are smoking dope in a dive in Oakland to stay covered, want their States to expand Medicaid without taxes going up, and so on.
In other words, the only two things they hate about Obamacare are paying for it, and the name.
Republicans in Congress understand this perfectly well, which is why there’s no plan.
And, not coincidentally, Obamacare (and Romneycare) were the culmination of fifty years of “reform”, all of which had the purpose of destroying the private sector or making it impossible for the private sector to function, except for boob jobs and a few other things. And, by 2009, the mission was largely accomplished.
Obamacare was merely a temporary mop-up operation, until full nationalization was possible.
And now, it is.
Like Nixon to China, Trump will propose single payer within the year. It’s really the only way out at this point.
And before you accuse me of favoring it, realize that it will destroy a lifetime of work for me. I don’t like it - I hate it.
But it’s coming, because it’s what the voters, bless their pointy little heads, want.
Get rid of HMOs, PPOs, etc and return to indemnity. HMO’s etc are cartels. They drive prices higher, increase administrative overhead, and cause excess utilization.
> it can’t be repealed without ushering in huge Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate.
Gag.
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