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A Plan to Save Social Security: Simple and Workable
Townhall ^ | 07/25/2017 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 07/25/2017 7:05:59 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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How Three Texas Counties Created Personal Social Security Accounts and Prospered
https://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillmatthews/2011/05/12/how-three-texas-counties-created-personal-social-security-accounts-and-prospered/#17f7dc613283

How Privatized Social Security Works in Galveston
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/us/how-privatized-social-security-works-in-galveston.html


21 posted on 07/25/2017 8:54:54 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: SeekAndFind

The only way to save Social Security is to take it OUT of the hands / control of politicians.


22 posted on 07/25/2017 9:09:16 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: SeekAndFind

Or congress could just undo all the changes they have made that hand out Social Security money to people other than those who worked and contributed to the fund.

It started out as a contributory retirement fund but over the years congress has raided it and treated it as a wefare slush fund to finance their “feel good” changes.


23 posted on 07/25/2017 9:15:25 PM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (We were Trumpin' before Trumpin' was cool.....)
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“The money would be placed in an investment account managed by a blue-ribbon panel of investment experts appointed by the president and Congress.”

Um, no. Can’t you just envision the members of this blue-ribbon panel appointed by DC politicians? Talk about putting the fox in charge of the hen house.


24 posted on 07/25/2017 9:26:11 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. ~ Hosea 8:7)
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To: SeekAndFind

am i seeing this right ?

2015 there were 3,978,497 births times 35 times 7,000 = 974 trillion, before the first 7,000 per gets paid back ?

where does the 974 trillion come from ?


25 posted on 07/25/2017 10:32:41 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Gay State Conservative
I just reached the magic age to SS unfortunately I have not been approved yet. However, they have approved to start paying my 4 year old daughter next month. I have no idea why they are going to pay her instead of maybe pying me extra as she's my dependent.

On the plus side I can file taxes in her name instead of against my income.

26 posted on 07/25/2017 10:45:30 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Trump the anti politician. About time!)
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To: RKV
End it. Socialism security is an unconstitutional transfer of wealth from working people to non-working people. Cut off payments and stop the taxes. It’s criminal and always has been and always will be.

I don't think that works.

The problem is that money was involuntarily collected from me and millions of others with a promise that we would get benefits when we retired. Other people, already retired at the time, got my money.

Now that I am retired, I will fight you tooth and nail, to the bitter end, to get the government to keep up its end of the promise.

27 posted on 07/25/2017 10:46:26 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: stylin19a
where does the 974 trillion come from ?

Stylin the buzz kill.

you had to go and get all logical on us, didn't you.

28 posted on 07/25/2017 11:27:23 PM PDT by onona (Stop stonewalling Judicial Watch and release the documents)
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To: stylin19a
am i seeing this right ?

No, the $7,000 is a one-time contribution, not $7,000 per year. Makes it more manageable, but I agree with the posters who say that it's a recipe for disaster; graft and corruption abound.

29 posted on 07/26/2017 4:57:41 AM PDT by LSAggie (Happy Birthday, America!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I think the most likely way that it will be done is to get rid of the income cap on the social security tax and put a cap on the maximum allowable benefit under social security. I’m not saying it’s the best way, just the most likely to be politically possible.


30 posted on 07/26/2017 5:28:38 AM PDT by OIFVeteran
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To: SeekAndFind

In 2010 3,999,386 children were born in the US. So under this plan approximately 29 billion additional dollars would be put into the stock market every year. I’m not a financial guru but maybe some freeper here is and can comment on what kind of effect this would have on the stock market?


31 posted on 07/26/2017 5:34:11 AM PDT by OIFVeteran
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No, it was always mandatory and from the being the law stated that any surpluses from the social security tax had to be loaned to the federal government. If you don’t believe me you can find the social security act of 1935 posted online at various sites.


32 posted on 07/26/2017 5:59:27 AM PDT by OIFVeteran
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To: RKV

Actually it’s a tax and so it is constitutional under the 16th Amendment.


33 posted on 07/26/2017 6:01:36 AM PDT by OIFVeteran
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I may be missing something here, but it seems like you would need more than $7000 in "seed" money. If you get 5% return every year for 70 years, plus give back the $7K in year 35, you don't end up with much more than 156K at age 70.
7000 * 1.05 * 1.05 * 1.05 * ..... etc
34 posted on 07/26/2017 6:35:56 AM PDT by jimmango
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To: SeekAndFind

1. Raising the retirement age to 70. He sneaked that in.

2. Northing will keep Congress from tapping into that kind of money.


35 posted on 07/26/2017 8:26:11 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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where does the 974 trillion come from ?

Eliminate a few federal departments.

36 posted on 07/26/2017 8:49:44 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: OIFVeteran

You’re buying the supreme court lie is all. Constitutional government in the United States is based on enumerated powers. There are 30 enumerated powers in Article 1 Section 8. Transferring wealth from producers to voters is not one of them.


37 posted on 07/26/2017 7:41:38 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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No. I’m following the constitution which can be changed by the Amendment process. The way our system is set up you could pass a constitutional amendment stating sharia is the supreme law of the land and sharia law would then be constitutional.

It would also be against the intentions of the founding fathers and I would fight with my life against such an amendment, but that is the way our constitution works.


38 posted on 07/27/2017 5:14:12 AM PDT by OIFVeteran
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To: onona

i screwed up the math...it’s 976 billion.
so this could actually work...


39 posted on 07/27/2017 9:06:31 AM PDT by stylin19a
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