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German Shepherd dogs dying in misery due to intensive breeding
The Telegraph ^ | July 28, 2017 | Henry Bodkin

Posted on 08/02/2017 6:20:55 AM PDT by Gennie

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To: madison10

It’s just a basic disregard for the well-being of the dog. So there is a pattern here.


41 posted on 08/02/2017 7:46:05 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Gennie

werent these dogs shorter and longer in the past ?.
they seem taller now . .


42 posted on 08/02/2017 7:48:42 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> M A G A << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: chrisinoc

You’re right, there are people that assume that bad hips automatically = sloped back (it isn’t, those crooked looking dogs hips are tested before breeding in Germany) and good hips = straight back, that’s incorrect and that’s why health testing should really be done before a dog is bred, though environmental issues can contribute as well.


43 posted on 08/02/2017 7:58:52 AM PDT by Gennie
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To: Gennie

Straight backs are how the working breed started - just look at pictures of WWII military dogs. I applaud you.


44 posted on 08/02/2017 7:58:55 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: DCBryan1

It depends on what you’re looking for....my dogs are the oversized, straight-backed kind, but are extremely healthy (11-13 years plus for some of the dogs in my lines, my big male is 140 pounds and over 12 right now). If you’re looking for a working type dog, you’d want to look into the Czech or East German lines.


45 posted on 08/02/2017 8:00:09 AM PDT by Gennie
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To: lysie

Mega Ditto!

Hope to get 2 German Shepherds later this year when I get out of this condo.

When I lived on 200 acres for 20 years, I had 4 of them. Greatest dog...............in my opinion.

Mine all lived long and happy lives.


46 posted on 08/02/2017 8:17:37 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: OneVike

You could try that but they’ll likely not care or even understand your concerns.

Your best bet is social media.

Share their sins with the world.

Peer pressure is still incredibly effective, especially when there are millions of peers bearing down on you.

Join GSD *owners* Facebook groups and tell them your story.


47 posted on 08/02/2017 8:26:26 AM PDT by Salamander (Where is evil? Often where you least expect it.)
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To: Paladin2

Leonberger.


48 posted on 08/02/2017 8:29:21 AM PDT by Mogger
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To: Hawthorn

“Stud of the month” syndrome.

That wretched Cambria Dobe won BOG at Westminster two years running and made it to the final cut.

He was a DCM carrier and his get are lousy with it, yet *everybody* now has “famous” Cambria in the lines and Dobes are dying young and often of it.

I spit on them.

Mutts are no answer.
“Hybrid vigor” is not only a misnomer, it’s a myth.

They inherit the same issues that their purebred parents had and often, it’s multiplied if the “wrong” breeds mix.

At least with purebreds, you have a chance of knowing what will come and preparing for it.

With mutts, it’s a crap shoot.

I love all dogs but I’m gonna hedge my bets as much as humanly possible.

It’s a sin that these kinds of conversations and concerns are even necessary, now.

:(


49 posted on 08/02/2017 8:33:28 AM PDT by Salamander (Where is evil? Often where you least expect it.)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

When a GSD is flopping erratically around the ring in its perverted pantomime of a “trot”, the crowd goes wild, cheering madly.

I want to grab the stadium mic and scream “WTF is WRONG with you people? Are you blind *and* stupid??”

For every breeder who creates these mutants, there is a stupid judge just as guilty for putting the dog up.

It’s become a twisted vicious circle of the unscrupulous trying to please that stupidity for fame.

I hate it.


50 posted on 08/02/2017 8:39:02 AM PDT by Salamander (Where is evil? Often where you least expect it.)
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To: Gennie

I bought me a Shepherd out in redneck East Texas and he does not seem to be suffering or look extreme in his structural makeup at all. Has been a great security for us the last ten years. I dread the thought of losing him in the future.


51 posted on 08/02/2017 8:40:58 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: Gennie
Here's another pic...this is of my male who is over 12 right now, extremely healthy (his hips were certified over 10 years ago and he's had other health tests done as well), and he's also HUGE at 140 pounds. Here he is getting a treat, which is a piece of pizza, from my son (also over 12, lol).


52 posted on 08/02/2017 8:42:19 AM PDT by Gennie
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To: Hawthorn
now encounters cocker spaniels and golden retrievers with nasty dispositions.

The family's last cocker spaniel, born in 1948, was a biter. And, no he was never teased nor abused.

53 posted on 08/02/2017 8:43:34 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Gennie

What about the German Shepherd cats?


54 posted on 08/02/2017 8:45:06 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Mogger

Thnx. Will check out.


55 posted on 08/02/2017 8:49:25 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Gennie

Breeding doesn’t pay any attention to actual genetics. Clearly many purebreds desperately need some new genes. Time for these dog “show kingdoms” to join science and shape up. Each breed should start mixing breeds in a nice, controlled way, to get their genetic lines stronger. Why be proud to have weak, unhealthy genetics and shorter life?

I think breeds should control for a certain look, a certain personality, enough intelligence, but also HEALTH should be a huge priority. Blending in new genes will benefit everyone. The only reason not to is “we’ve always done it this way, we are kings, we rule over all purebred dogs, we are wrong and your dog will cost thousands and live a short life with long pain at the end, but again: we are the boss.”


56 posted on 08/02/2017 8:50:43 AM PDT by Yaelle (We have a Crisis of Information in this country. Our enemies hold the megaphone.)
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To: Salamander

I hear U loud and clear.

Do you have some local appropriate dog pups available now or later?

I can easily pass by if appropriate.


57 posted on 08/02/2017 8:52:27 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Gennie

wow, that is 1 big dog. your dog could eat my jack russell terrier for a snack.


58 posted on 08/02/2017 8:53:29 AM PDT by midnightcat
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To: Hawthorn

This is what I will do if I get a dog. I love certain dog’s looks and personalities and intelligence. So I will look for a mix of those dogs. My friend has a labradoodle that really has the best of everything between a lab and standard poodle. And no recessive genes.


59 posted on 08/02/2017 8:54:55 AM PDT by Yaelle (We have a Crisis of Information in this country. Our enemies hold the megaphone.)
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To: Gennie
My 10 year old male shepherd's parents both had OFA good hips and my guy has good hips, despite him slowing down somewhat with age.

His breeder guarantees the pups for hips provided you have an x-ray done at age 2.

My little girl who is 2, came from a back yard breeder (but AKC) and we have had no reason to have her x-rayed for anything. I am not going to breed her so I have to go with my instincts that she is good. Fast runner, not injury prone.

Neither one has a sloping back.

60 posted on 08/02/2017 9:01:46 AM PDT by Abby4116
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