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World View: China and India Prepare for Border War at Doklam Plateau
Breitbart News ^ | 8/12/2017 | John J. Xenakis

Posted on 08/12/2017 2:37:38 PM PDT by Moorings

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To: Gen.Blather
The Chinese strategy is to gain the high altitude Doklam plateau, and then cut off India's "Chicken neck" pass that connects all of northeast India with the rest of India.They will then attack and take over the northeastern Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, which they already claim for their own and also other parts of NE India.

So this take over of the Doklam plateau in tiny Bhutan is part of their strategy to annex an entire Indian state and maybe more.

This small incursion is part of a larger plan for a massive land grab.

I think India will fight this like their entire NE was about to be taken over. It will not be a small and limited war.

21 posted on 08/12/2017 4:11:38 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: Moorings

If China were to see all of SE Asia countries form a trade association they could challenge China as an exporter and that could scare the crap out of China. China is also looking for a second path to the sea, an easier/shorter route for oil and gas imports from the middle ease.


22 posted on 08/12/2017 4:44:20 PM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: Moorings

Still, this is back door pressure on China. Puts their skin in the game — having a nuclear neighbor who’s willing to skirmish and escalate with them.

Perhaps president Trump will announce that we will support india if China strikes first or disproportionately.


23 posted on 08/12/2017 4:45:41 PM PDT by Fhios (We're at the mercy of the SUV generation.)
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To: Gen.Blather

China has a social political problem that is actually pretty serious. It has an overabundance of young men without possibility of wives. The Moslem “nations” have the same problem. Those young men have to be directed outwardly or they become a force for rebellion. They have to be burned off in foreign wars lest they burn down their own countries’ ruling classes. The USA will be facing this excess of Chinese and Saracen young men for another generation, maybe two and the involvement in what are essentially border wars will be incessant as it has been for the past generation. If the West doesn’t push back and help China and the Mohammedans burn off their excess warrior youth then the Americas will suffer the fate of Europe which even now is being overrun.


24 posted on 08/12/2017 4:49:07 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Moorings
Quotes: Not too many countries can handle power and wealth and resist the temptation of subjugating weaker countries. and The U.S. is the only power that did not turn into a colonizing machine, even though it had the power, wealth and influence to do so.

What the heck do you call 'Manifest Destiny', the 'Monroe Doctrine', Texas Revolution, the 'Indian Wars'? Let's not forget the Spanish American War. Both Philippines and Cuba were colonies for years, as Guam and Puerto Rico remain to this day.

Don't delude yourself. The US was (and is, at least through economics) a colonizing country,subjugating other people's and countries.

25 posted on 08/12/2017 4:52:16 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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What’s going to happen if Pakistan decides to get frisky with India in their disputed territories?


26 posted on 08/12/2017 4:54:08 PM PDT by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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Spoken like a real Anti-American Canadian .
I grew up in Canada, with people just like you...happy on the outside to be pro American, but deep down, HATING the USA for it’s successes.
If Manifest Destiny had been a real American policy, you Canucks would have al been pledging allegiance to Old Glory long ago.


27 posted on 08/12/2017 6:19:24 PM PDT by mkleesma (`Call to me, and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.')
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To: mkleesma

Classy.

When you can’t defend against the points raised, instead you launch an ad hominem. Now that you’ve vented your spleen, please explain how the numerous broken treaties with the Natives in the Western US was not colonization. Let’s try the ‘liberation’ of the Philippines in 1898. Please explain how this was not colonization.

The truth hurts, doesn’t it!

Human nature is such that we look after ourselves first and foremost. When we desire something so we take it, if we can. be it through trade or force. America has done it’s share of colonizing in the past. Acknowledging that your country is imperfect, like every other country, will set you free.


28 posted on 08/12/2017 8:05:01 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian; Moorings

Not to mention Hawaii and American occupied Samoa


29 posted on 08/12/2017 8:53:58 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Winter is coming)
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To: Moorings

Maybe. But I don’t think it would be wise for China to have both India _and_ the US as opponents at the same place time.


30 posted on 08/12/2017 9:43:52 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

The “truth” doesn’t hurt me. Colonization is not necessarily a bad thing, overall, though sometimes the specifics involved are.

For example, I have lived much of my life near the “Trail of Tears” the Shawnee had to endure when forced off their lands. There is no excuse for what was done to these people: They could have been moved much more humanely.

And yet, the sometimes ugly process of the US becoming a great world power lead to one of the greatest forces for good on the planet.

We treated some - a relative few, actually - of the Filipinos badly / worse than they deserved. But we also left the country, at least in the late 1940’s into the early 50’s, with democracy, as good friends (with occasional disagreements), and as the “Tiger of the Pacific”, economically. Unfortunately, it appears we did not stay in control long enough to erase the former Spanish and certain tribal tendencies thoroughly enough.

Most Puerto Ricans want US statehood, not secession.

And so on.


31 posted on 08/13/2017 5:38:49 AM PDT by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: Moorings

Just as Putin’s actions in Ukraine were to cover actions in the Crimea, the Chinese actions against India are to cover the debacle that is north Korea.


32 posted on 08/13/2017 5:43:41 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Paul R.

I live in Calgary and, as I’ve noted several times on FR, the Treaty 7 self-described ‘First Nations’ (FN) were treated badly by the Canadian government and still remain badly treated. While the ‘numbered treaties’ were never outright broken and the FN were not forced to move after the Treaties were established, the people were neglected and badly treated, more by d’Ottawa than the Government Agents on the ground.

AFA, my comment about the truth hurting, it was directed at the very thin skinned individual who whined about growing up in Canada. The gentleman to whom I first responded, seemed to forget, or ignore the history of American colonization, be it good or bad. Every ‘major power’ in the world has had colonies, the US included.

FWIW, I do agree that colonization can be a positive thing. All the former colonies of Great Britain were left with well organized governments and well established rule of law. The fact that most of the former African colonies turned out so bad is a function of the new ‘rulers’ being unwilling to follow the rule of law as established under former British rule.


33 posted on 08/13/2017 7:07:18 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Agreed on pretty much all of that. :-)


34 posted on 08/15/2017 1:24:09 AM PDT by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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