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UK citizens ‘should be advised to leave Korean peninsula’
Peeblesshire ^ | Aug. 13, 2017

Posted on 08/14/2017 7:57:01 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

UK citizens ‘should be advised to leave Korean peninsula’

The Government should advise British nationals in the Korean peninsula to leave if the tensions over Kim Jong Un’s nuclear programme continue to ratchet up, a former head of the Royal Navy has warned.

Admiral Lord West of Spithead said there was a “real risk” the current stand off between North Korea and the United States could escalate into an actual conflict, resulting in an exchange of nuclear weapons, with “catastrophic” consequences for the region.

He said advising UK citizens to leave the peninsula and nearby Japan would send a message to the international community that they needed to act to prevent a lurch into all out war.

“When you start giving certain advice to your nationals people start taking notice and maybe China and others will say ‘Goodness me, this is really serious’,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Broadcasting House.

“I would set out a certain number of parameters, that if in terms of tension if things change, and say ‘You should now think about getting out and about other people you should think about not going there’.”

The current Foreign Office travel advice for both South and North Korea notes that tensions “remain high” following the North’s latest nuclear and missile tests but does not advise Britons to leave.

Lord West, however, said he feared chances of a conflict breaking out in the region were now higher than at any time since the end of the Korean War in 1952.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: evacuation; nknukes; nkorea; skorea; trumpasia
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1 posted on 08/14/2017 7:57:01 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Admiral Lord West of Spithead

I bet his ‘solution’ involves the impeachment of Trump.


2 posted on 08/14/2017 8:02:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
That's how you start a panic. I would be perfectly happy to be stationed in Korea again, like I was in 1978-79 and 1981-82. Best thing that happened to me in the service. Great hard-working, intelligent people. They went from complete and utter devastation in 1953 to being arguably the most advanced country in the world today. Would that African countries would model themselves after South Korea.
3 posted on 08/14/2017 8:03:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; endthematrix; ...
This is one of the effective ways to send a message. Yes, it may cost some money to some folks, and make people nervous. However, there is no painless way to handle this problem.

If it reaches the point that residents in Beijing get spooked, it would give China further motivation to cooperate. I think China is still jerking us around. The best they currently want to do is probably to make N. Korea temporarily freeze their missile and nuclear test, and forcing everybody to spin it as his victory and back off from N. Korea.

4 posted on 08/14/2017 8:05:05 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Spithead? Is that anywhere near Dorking?


5 posted on 08/14/2017 8:07:35 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’m not sure, but it appears to me, that Kim just blinked.

I thought we were heading toward a conflict, with Guam as the trip-point.

Now Kim has apparently said, North Korea will (not) be targeting a missile toward Guam.

Just a small item, but seems significant. Markets seem to think so.


6 posted on 08/14/2017 8:07:40 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Would that African countries would model themselves after South Korea. “

But it’s such a “stretch” from dirt floored huts and honey pits. The only thing I can conclude is that all the African Rocket Scientists are all working for NASA.


7 posted on 08/14/2017 8:09:52 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: LucyT

Ping.


8 posted on 08/14/2017 8:11:29 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: vette6387

South Korea circa 1953 was dirt floors and outdoor toilets.


9 posted on 08/14/2017 8:17:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: rdl6989; Whenifhow; GregNH; LS; 2ndDivisionVet; appalachian_dweller; aragorn; ...

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PING to Article.

Thanks, rdl6989.

Note, I will be offline a few days. Hold the Fort.


10 posted on 08/14/2017 8:18:13 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: cba123
Well it is still within the historical pattern of N. Korea. The important point is how far they will move from here. Unless followed by significant movement to the resolution, this would be no better than stalling tactics N. Korea and China used so many times in the past.

The difference is that N. Korea is much closer to the finish line than it used to, and the stakes are far larger. The extent of sanctions China is reportedly applying to N. Korea is still lukewarm. Yes, more items are banned for import from N. Korea, and probably additional pressure on some Chinese factories to stop using N. Korean workers. But that would be far short of meaningful sanction. How much do we have to appease China to close down oil shipment even for a few days? For now, there is no indication of China even thinking about it.

11 posted on 08/14/2017 8:18:22 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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....”Would that African countries would model themselves after South Korea”...

Never happen....you're talking two very distinct and vastly different cultures. Africa is an International Welfare Country for the most part throughout....not to mention extremely high illiteracy.... The overall public is accustomed to decades of International Food Programs so the people are ‘fixed’ in their ‘role’. .... Add into that mix are all the conflicts which have raged for years over which next militia groups etc. are going to get the Gov. revenues in their own pockets.....it's not even close to what the S. Korean people are about.

12 posted on 08/14/2017 8:25:51 PM PDT by caww
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Nation leaders don't make this sort of call lightly......same with removing Ambassadors and clearing out their families. Also some nations don't advertise they're pulling people out. Looks to me like Tillerson, Trump and the Generals are following through the steps they said would be taken to keep the pressure building on Fatboy and China......this is one of them as well....but it is coming down to the wire of options left.....Fatboys playing chicken I think.
13 posted on 08/14/2017 8:30:32 PM PDT by caww
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Oh I (completely) agree.

China needs to be confronted strongly. BOTH PARTIES in America have been selling out everything to them, for over the entire last generation.

Everyone.

The GOP has sold out, because of unions. The democrats have sold out because they want to turn America into a non-leader country with a majority minority voter block.

But BOTH parties are completely sold out.

Trump (said) he was going to be for America once again.

This is a good start. But he has a very huge challenge ahead of him, and both parties are set up to support China bigtime right now.

Everyone is sold out.

Except (maybe) Trump. Maybe.


14 posted on 08/14/2017 8:31:59 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: LucyT

Thanks for ping


15 posted on 08/14/2017 8:33:59 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It’s always good to take a little time and plan ahead, just in case. When I lived in Japan, I took to heart the earthquake disaster plans, drills, and training. That’s where I honed my bugout bag skills, including bags in the car and at work, and I started putting away precious metals. I refreshed my camping skills and equipment. I also studied maps of the local area for backroads, bottlenecks, and footpaths.

It would be wise for all foreigners in South Korea to start thinking ahead about what they would do in an emergency.


16 posted on 08/14/2017 8:50:47 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: VanShuyten
There are countries which can organize government-led evacuations, but too many citizens from those countries in SK. Sudden evacuation would be a logistical nightmare. It would be prudent to lower the number of people in S. Korea by making them voluntarily leave well ahead of potentially life-threatening crisis.

They should gradually discourage people from making non-essential trips and encourage people to leave. It would also substantially reduce political panic domestically when evacuation does occur.

17 posted on 08/14/2017 9:05:02 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I think NEO plans to involve involuntary evacuation should start to take place. Another thing that would turn the Chinese shit white would if the State Department clearly advises NO US citizens to visit or stay in China’s northwest provinces such as Heilongjiang, etc., bordering North Korea. They don’t need to say “why”, just “go there.”


18 posted on 08/14/2017 10:11:04 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo

correction: “just DON’T go there”


19 posted on 08/14/2017 10:12:37 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo
That would spook them for sure. It should be followed by media reports warning a real possibility of nuclear fallout in N. East China, should something goes wrong.

Many media reported that residents in N. East China are terrified of nuclear fallout if N. Korea's nuclear test goes wrong. Now they have to deal with worse cases. Using conventional weapons, U.S. could bomb NK nuclear installations many of which are near Sino-N. Korean border, resulting in a release of radioactive materials. There is also very remote but non-zero chances that they will be hit by U.S. nukes.

20 posted on 08/14/2017 10:31:03 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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