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Who won? Who Lost?
August 22, 2017 | MosesKnows

Posted on 08/22/2017 3:00:46 PM PDT by MosesKnows

Seriously


If we erase evidence of who lost the Civil War where will we find evidence of who won the Civil War?


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Where will we find evidence there even was a Civil War?
1 posted on 08/22/2017 3:00:47 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: MosesKnows

How will we know there were slaves?


2 posted on 08/22/2017 3:02:54 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: MosesKnows
Or will we also erase all evidence of Slavery.

3 posted on 08/22/2017 3:04:14 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: MosesKnows
If we edit history, it will be completely incomprehensible once enough pieces of the puzzle are lost.

4 posted on 08/22/2017 3:07:01 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: MosesKnows
Where will we find evidence there even was a Civil War?

Big Government and Crony Capitalists won the Civil War.

5 posted on 08/22/2017 3:08:17 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: rktman
How will we know there were slaves?

The IRS reminds us who cracks the whip every mid-April.
6 posted on 08/22/2017 3:09:52 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: MosesKnows
If we erase evidence of who lost the Civil War where will we find evidence of who won the Civil War?

Well, first you will need to figure out when it ended, and then you'll need to figure out metrics for winning and losing.

A logical end date would be 1877. And it certainly looks like a Southern victory at that point.

7 posted on 08/22/2017 3:10:56 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: MosesKnows
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And erased by the Fascists.

8 posted on 08/22/2017 3:11:39 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: MosesKnows

I get your point, but the bigger point is that NO ONE is “innocent,” therefore eventually every statue must come down that no man may be better than another.

Ulysses Grant was a slaveowner.

Martin Luther King rejected homosexual marriage.

Bill Clinton hung out with a Klansman.


9 posted on 08/22/2017 3:13:32 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: BitWielder1

Slavery? What slavery?

I never owned any slaves.

So them BLM thugs can take their claims for reparations and shove them up their Obama-holes.


10 posted on 08/22/2017 3:13:42 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: PAR35

I would argue that while hostilities and the fighting ended; the Civil War has not ever ended.

Reconstruction was just another phase of the War of Northern Aggression. Then various laws, policies and practices from Fedzilla has carried on the social, cultural and economic divides and here we are today - 150 plus years after the shooting ended - and we are still on the brink of picking up where Appomattox left off.


11 posted on 08/22/2017 3:19:11 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: MosesKnows

Both sides lost.

In no way did either side win.

The CSA surrendered but that is a peripheral argument to winning.

No territory was won or lost and in the end at least 650,000 were dead.


12 posted on 08/22/2017 3:21:24 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: rktman
How will we know there were slaves?

The demise of the racial whore business? Jesse? Al? et al

Unintended consequences. smile.

13 posted on 08/22/2017 3:21:40 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: PAR35

Is 1877 when Reconstruction ended and the slave states re-instituted slavery in the form of vagrantcy laws? And with prison-slave labor the Southern factory owners and Plantation owners became very wealthy very rapidly. FDR brought electricity to the south east during the 1930s and after the conclusion of WW2 a bunch of Great Lakes industries set up new branches in the South. So what exactly does 1877 mean to you?! Do you find the unjust vagrantcy laws to be attractive to you?!


14 posted on 08/22/2017 3:22:18 PM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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Only in America were there slaves. Only in America was there racism. This is the new narrative. I mean slavery and racism is woven into the history of EVERY nation. I know that the left wants to revamp history in order to distort and brainwash the minds of feeble individuals to curry influence on them. The idiots, from BLM, or Colin Capernick, or Antifa...,they have it 180 degrees out of phase. We want a wall to keep people OUT. People want to come HERE. Our nation has shed blood to FREE people, and that includes slaves of African origin.

You know, slavery is still rampant in Africa. Wouldn't you think that, instead of tearing down monument of stone and bronze, they would apply their energies to eradicating slavery were it STILL EXISTS??!! I guess that would be too much to ask. And it would require actual work from the posers who thrust their fist up in the air during the playing of the National Anthem.

15 posted on 08/22/2017 3:23:37 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: BitWielder1

Once the history of the Confederacy is gone the civil rights struggle is too.


16 posted on 08/22/2017 3:24:13 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: MosesKnows

Looks to me like we are about to fight it again.


17 posted on 08/22/2017 3:28:21 PM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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To: fhayek

A lengthy,horrifying article on modern day slavery.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/modern-day-slave-trade

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18 posted on 08/22/2017 3:30:54 PM PDT by Mears
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To: MosesKnows
I explain it all in my new book, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About the Civil War, But Were Afraid to Ask.

November 6, 1860. Abraham Lincoln is elected president with anti-slavery support. Shortly thereafter, eleven southern, slave holding states secede from the United States to form the Confederate States of America. A war commences.

Janary 1, 1863. -- Lincoln frees the slaves.

April 9, 1865. -- U.S. General Grant accepts the surrender of the Confederate army from an unknown general.

April 14, 1865. -- President Lincoln is assassinated.

19 posted on 08/22/2017 3:31:46 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: BitWielder1

And erase all evidence that slavery was abolished.


20 posted on 08/22/2017 3:48:33 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Hitler’s Mein Kampf, translated into Arabic, is "My Jihad")
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