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Feds Paid Dead Veterans $37 Million
The Washington Free Beacon ^ | Sept 05, 2017 | Elizabeth Harrington

Posted on 09/06/2017 6:16:43 AM PDT by ptsal

The Social Security Administration made $37 million worth of benefit payments to dead veterans, according to a new audit.

The inspector general for the agency reported more retirement and disability payments could be made to deceased individuals if action is not taken to correct the government's death record system.

(Excerpt) Read more at freebeacon.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dead; fraud; socialsecurity; veteransaffairs
Another senior project, create a cloud-based database system to match death certificates, post-death payments, bank accounts, voter records, DMV, and, of course, remittances to over-seas locations.

This is NOT rocket science.

1 posted on 09/06/2017 6:16:43 AM PDT by ptsal
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To: ptsal
Of course for some senators, it may be rocket science.


2 posted on 09/06/2017 6:19:15 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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37 Million seems like a lot of money to us, but to be honest, the govt would spend more correcting the problem.


3 posted on 09/06/2017 6:21:21 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Why are the relatives not being arrested for FRAUD??? Long-term theft by stealing checks amounts to much more than the piddling amounts stolen from shops and malls that have resulted in long jail sentences.


4 posted on 09/06/2017 6:30:06 AM PDT by txrefugee (.)
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“SSA issued payments to 3,925 beneficiaries who had dates of death in VA’s records,” the inspector general said. “Our audit results indicated that at least 11 percent of these beneficiaries were alive, and death information in VA’s records was erroneous. However, our audit results also indicated that at least 19 percent of these beneficiaries were deceased, and death information in VA’s records was accurate.”


So, 11% were receiving benefits correctly but wouldn’t if they used the va death records.

but 19% were incorrectly receiving benefits.

so on average not doing to bad...................

Sorry technology won’t solve the problem. Keeping an accurate database impossible, it is a moving target. The amazing thing is not that it is so screwed up. The amazing thing is that it works at all.

I don’t know the answer except that nothing will change until the money runs out.


5 posted on 09/06/2017 6:38:22 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Social Security benefits

Veterans Affairs benefits

IRS tax refunds

DC is a leaky vessel....fix it or break it


6 posted on 09/06/2017 6:40:42 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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DC is a leaky vessel....fix it or break it


break it may be the best option, what do you propose?


7 posted on 09/06/2017 6:42:13 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Why just cherry pick? A couple of real questions not answered are:

How many of these were stolen Identities by Illegal Aliens (or whatever they are calling them these days)?

How many of the all the payments made to all are by Illegal Aliens (or whatever they are calling them these days)?


8 posted on 09/06/2017 6:45:00 AM PDT by RichyTea (To those offended - take off your blinders)
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Correction: Govt will spend MORE than $37M FARKING up the problem even further.

Govt. DOESN’T. SOLVE. “problems”.

Scarier still was someone thinking govt should be tracking bank accounts, voting records, DMV (along w/ dental/medical, SS payments, IRS, etc.)...HOLY SHIT!! They can’t track visa/green card holders, but full access\control to\of EVERY detail of the Citizenry in the U.S.???

This is still FR, right? Wasn’t hacked/sold??


9 posted on 09/06/2017 7:07:06 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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As El Rushbo might say, from the Groove Yard of Forgotten Favorites; here’s just one reason Social Security keeps sending checks to dead people:

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/03/10/inspector-general-65m-active-social-security-numbers-linked-people-aged-112-and

Yep, the Social Security Administration reports 6.5 million active social security numbers for individuals over the age of 112. For Senator Franken (and others who are math impaired), there are less than 40 people worldwide who are at least 112 and still living. Given those facts, you’d think it would be pretty easy to dig through those active numbers, find out who they belong to, and arrest the fraudsters. My guess is that virtually no progress has been made on that issue since it was first reported two years ago.

I recall a case from a few years ago that highlights this problem. Social Security discovered they were still sending a monthly check to a man who was 117 years old. Problem was, he had died 40 years earlier; his son never reported the death and kept pocketing the monthly benefit check. The fraud wasn’t discovered until the son passed away in his 70s.

Multiply this example by thousands of times, and you begin to see the iceberg that is Social Security fraud.

Addendum: while the government admitted it had 6.5 million active social security numbers for individuals at least 112 years old, they never disclosed the number who were getting a check (I’m guessing thousands). And it’s a safe bet that many of those folks are still getting a monthly check, as they advance towards their 120th birthday (in the alternate universe of social security database maintenance and fraud prevention).


10 posted on 09/06/2017 7:12:11 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: PeterPrinciple
37 Million seems like a lot of money to us, but to be honest, the govt would spend more correcting the problem.

An analysis program called ACL, a few analysts, and a couple of months are all that is needed to do this. What is lacking is the will.

11 posted on 09/06/2017 7:20:37 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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The do-nothing congress has such a long list of items needing attention and action.


12 posted on 09/06/2017 7:47:51 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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agreed...this is criminal....they should be arrested and made to pay back all the money or face lengthy prison sentences...or both...

why is it so hard to have a national database of death certificates that can easily be gleaned by computer systems to eliminate SS/disability/voting rights to dead people...

13 posted on 09/06/2017 11:12:42 AM PDT by cherry
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