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Home Brewing Is Legal, And Home Distilling Should Be Too
The Federalist ^ | 09/06/2017 | C. Jarrett Dieterle

Posted on 09/06/2017 8:19:52 PM PDT by ForYourChildren

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To: Karl Spooner

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Distillers were taxed based on the size of their stills. Stills with the capacity to annually produce at least 400 gallons of whiskey were taxed between 7 and 18 cents a gallon, depending on the proof of the liquor. Distillers who made stronger whiskey paid a higher tax. Smaller stills were taxed at a rate of 10 cents for every month a still was in operation, or 7 cents for every gallon produced, whichever was lower.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/history/united-states-and-canada/us-history/whiskey-rebellion


41 posted on 09/06/2017 10:06:29 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Karl Spooner

The purpose was “theoretically, the producer will pass the tax burden along to the consumer in the price of the product.”

https://www.ttb.gov/public_info/special_feature.shtml

Not individual consumption, although if you drank more than a gallon a month, per the previous post, it would be taxed.


42 posted on 09/06/2017 10:08:15 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ctdonath2

customary2: Regulating & heavily taxing hard liquors was practically the first such laws in this country. Look up “Whiskey Rebellion”; we’ve been arguing over this for centuries.
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Apples and oranges. During the Whiskey Rebellion, Feds were strictly interested in revenues for Revolutionary War debts. There was no federal regulation of whiskey other than taxation. Health and safety concerns were left to the states.


43 posted on 09/06/2017 10:13:49 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: ForYourChildren

What are “the rules” for home-brew beer as far as “distribution” goes? Can I give a case to my neighbor w/o a “tax-stamp”? I assume I cannot sell him a case? I would think most “home distillers” might not want the the expense of a still set-up w/o the ability to sell their ‘shine. Maybe not...legalize distilling for “personal use” and see I guess!


44 posted on 09/06/2017 10:16:15 PM PDT by Drago
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To: mrsmith

If you happen to have an approximation of the Rye whiskey George Washington distilled, please send it my way.


45 posted on 09/06/2017 10:37:12 PM PDT by txnativegop (Socialism -- an evil created by ignorant a-holes!)
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To: ForYourChildren

I really don’t think the GOV gives a damn whether you brew suds or make wine or even hootch but i know for a fact they don’t want you selling it as long as i make it for my own use i can make enough to last me a couple years you need sterilization and licenses for everything else then there’s taxes and the pricing i make excellent wine with well more than 20 bucks a bottle it wouldn’t be enjoyable with all the rules

Oh well compete with the gov it’s up to you but you’re going to lose not only the fun of it but prolly your taste for it to !


46 posted on 09/06/2017 10:39:36 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (I think therefore im Dangerous to the liberal agenda !)
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To: txnativegop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aifziRfZAjE

Making the mash for George Washington’s Rye Whiskey


47 posted on 09/06/2017 10:44:03 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (I think therefore im Dangerous to the liberal agenda !)
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To: TexasGator

If so at the end of the day there will be a lot LESS stupid people out there that don’t know methanol from ethanol.

And that too should be none of the federal governemnt’s concern.


48 posted on 09/06/2017 10:54:09 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: exDemMom

A matter of State laws, not federal. A 10th Amendment issue.


49 posted on 09/06/2017 10:55:17 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Ken H

“customary2” should be “cdonath2”


50 posted on 09/06/2017 10:56:24 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Karl Spooner

No permit was involved. The tax, which was constitutional, was IIRC an excise tax.

Problem was, that Whisky was for many the only “currency” they effectively had access to. I consider a modern counterpart the abominable practice of charging sales tax on gold or silver bullion or coin.

It is a simple fact that the Constitution expressly forbids the States to use anything but gold or silver coin and calling federal reserve notes “money” does not annul the Constitution. In fact the claim made on each and every reserve note, that these are legal tender for all public debts, is a lie pure and simple.

So when a State imposes a sales tax of gold or silver that are basically imposing a tax on acquiring Money ... the only Money that they should be permitted to do business with in fact.


51 posted on 09/06/2017 11:06:21 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: ForYourChildren

Slap a “motor fuel only” or “biofuel” sticker on your stuff an the Goverment will give you grants to make it........


52 posted on 09/06/2017 11:23:36 PM PDT by Species8472 (It's the only way to be sure)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

thank you!


53 posted on 09/06/2017 11:45:53 PM PDT by txnativegop (Socialism -- an evil created by ignorant a-holes!)
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To: RC one
When I distilled mine with the air-cooled distiller; I'd only throw away the firs ounce or so. The rest was good. On the back end it starts getting weak which is why you use the gauge to see what proof is coming out.

I used this thing called a "Mr. Distiller".


54 posted on 09/07/2017 1:29:28 AM PDT by Boomer (The term "RINO" is now being replaced with "Socialist Republicans". Oh; the irony!)
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To: varyouga

I am no distiller, but anything with sugar or starch can be distilled. This goes from fruit to potatoes to grain.


55 posted on 09/07/2017 2:24:02 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: ForYourChildren
Maybe not, but I still can’t find the power over alcohol give to the Feds in the Constitution.

You don't know much about early American history, our founding fathers, and taxes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion

56 posted on 09/07/2017 2:55:46 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: exDemMom
Methanol boils at 148.3° F
Ethanol boils at 173.3° F

That's why you discard the first drippings and distill twice.
Alcohol was always distilled twice in the traditional distilleries. The first distillation was quick and of low quality. This produced the raw spirit, which was diluted with water to 50%, distilled a second time in a column still at 174°F.

Home distillers can do this as well. First, a quick distillation (stripping) and then dilute with water to 40-50% (otherwise it will boil dry and the alcohol will not be as pure).
Distill a second time – several fermentations can be distilled as one batch at the same time. It’s easier to maintain the temperature and the result is a cleaner alcohol since many of the impurities are separated out during the first distillation.

Grandpa taught me.

57 posted on 09/07/2017 2:58:55 AM PDT by WhirlwindAttack (I will crush everything you have built, burn all that you love, and kill every one of you.)
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To: ForYourChildren

The Tampa Bay area is a Mecca of microbreweries. Most of them started out as home Brewers, so did some wineries, too.


58 posted on 09/07/2017 3:26:08 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: ForYourChildren

Free the Shine!


59 posted on 09/07/2017 3:32:36 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: RC one

Wow, thank you for that tip. I will try it.

My tip: If you make apple cider it can be made stronger by freezing it partially; when a layer of ice forms on top remove it. Repeat.

Every time ice (water) is removed, the cider gets stronger.


60 posted on 09/07/2017 6:29:43 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Trump's election does not release you from your prepping responsibilites!)
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