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Inside Trump's head-scratching deal with "Chuck and Nancy"
Axios ^ | 9/7/17 | Mike Allen

Posted on 09/07/2017 7:54:51 AM PDT by 198ml

Soak this in: It's now possible that Trump's biggest legislative wins this year will be more spending and raising the debt cap — the exact opposite of what Tea Party Republicans came to D.C. to do.

Trump "brazenly rolled his own party's leaders," as AP put it. Plus his own Treasury secretary, Steve Mnuchin — in front of leaders of both parties.

Why it matters: Tax reform is now less likely, with trust ruptured between Trump and Republican Hill leaders. Democrats are more likely to flip the House in 2018: Republicans have less than ever to show their voters.

A Democratic source tells us: "[T]he sequence was GOP pushing for 18-month debt [limit increase], then 12, then 6, then Trump cutting them off and agreeing with us on 3. ... The Oval Office spins fast in Trump's White House."

(Excerpt) Read more at axios.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: crcrcr; debt; schumer; teaparty; trump; trumpdems; trumpspending; trumpusdebt
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1 posted on 09/07/2017 7:54:52 AM PDT by 198ml
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To: 198ml

Total BS


2 posted on 09/07/2017 7:56:06 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: 198ml

Looks like Trump playing hardball with the GOPe leaders.

Can the leadership be shamed into acting like Republicans/conservatives? Time will tell.


3 posted on 09/07/2017 7:57:55 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: jonno

That is how I see it.

However, I did warn some of my rabid Trump supporter friends that his track record is not that of a conservative, and pray your pet goals do not find themselves in his crosshairs.

But I think you are correct.


4 posted on 09/07/2017 8:00:48 AM PDT by robroys woman
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To: 198ml

Just get rid of the debt ceiling. That ceiling is a farce.


5 posted on 09/07/2017 8:01:38 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: 198ml

The Chuck and Nancy show was a pure Trumpian move. It was time for a broadside against the RINOs. We now return to our regularly scheduled conservative agenda.


6 posted on 09/07/2017 8:02:29 AM PDT by scottinoc
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To: jonno

Trump tried over and over again to play nice with the GOP.
It got him nowhere.
Trump now has the GOP’s attention.
We will soon see if the GOP gets
behind the Trump agenda.

I read somewhere that Trent Lott, crawled out a rock
and trashed Trump.

When Lott is against it, I’m for it.


7 posted on 09/07/2017 8:03:00 AM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small fee.)
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To: tennmountainman

The GOP ‘wigs will have to decide if they want to hate Trump so bad that he can more easily make deals with Rats than they.


8 posted on 09/07/2017 8:06:02 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: 198ml
Why it matters: Tax reform is now less likely, with trust ruptured between Trump and Republican Hill leaders. Democrats are more likely to flip the House in 2018: Republicans have less than ever to show their voters.

The author undermines his own point by including the last item in the list.

Republicans have "less than ever to show their voters" for reasons that have nothing to do with yesterday's three-month government spending bill. They walked into that meeting with nothing more than a parade of squandered opportunities from the last seven months to show their voters.

In other words, yesterday's deal didn't matter at all ... except that it reinforced the idea in the minds of most Americans that the Republicans in Congress are useless piles of sh!t.

9 posted on 09/07/2017 8:08:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: tennmountainman
One senior GOP official, summing up the day: "He f----d us."

They had it coming.

10 posted on 09/07/2017 8:10:25 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: 198ml

If you don’t follow the news you’re uninformed, if you do, you are mis-informed.

I am sick and tired of the end of the world crap out of all the pundits on both sides of the aisle, every time something doesn’t go the way they think it should.

Debt Ceiling was a non starter, by all but the complete foolish... No one is going to put the economy at risk when they know a comprehensive budget deal isn’t going to happen before the deadline....

I have faith that Trump will get tax reform done, and it likely won’t be “perfect” when viewed by either end of the political spectrums purity tests, but if he gets the taxes lowered and simplified like they need to be, that will be a good thing...

Until something is actually passed and ready to be signed, all the rest of this is just white noise.


11 posted on 09/07/2017 8:11:14 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Munchkin is a rino. Trump is wise to roll over him also. The Rino’s wanted to get past the elections so they can continue to block our Trump Agenda.


12 posted on 09/07/2017 8:11:14 AM PDT by davidb56
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To: HiTech RedNeck

He got us Gorsuch...anything else is icing.


13 posted on 09/07/2017 8:11:20 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: 198ml

“Republicans have less than ever to show their voters”

Less than zero?

Interesting.


14 posted on 09/07/2017 8:13:16 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (CNN IS ISIS.)
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To: tennmountainman

“Trump tried over and over again to play nice with the GOP.
It got him nowhere.
Trump now has the GOP’s attention.”

Basically, the GOP was trying to make Trump irrelevant, particularly with regard to his main promise, which is the Wall.

It’s quite possible that their long-term plan was to discredit Trump with his supporters by blocking the Wall, Obamacare repeal, and tax cuts ‘See, Trump can’t get anything done - he’s useless’. And also make him out to be a nutcase, such as when he also called out the Alt-Left in Charlottesville and many other cases.

With Trump useless and discredited as President, the final blow, they hoped, would come from Mueller. At that point, the idea would be to remove Trump from office, knowing that even his supporters are sick of him.

At least that was the plan...now it’s in tatters as the Republican leadership now has to fight for its life.


15 posted on 09/07/2017 8:13:55 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: 198ml

He needs to raise the debt ceiling now because of the hurricanes. Republicans are going to Stonewall him and let him sink on this whole hurricane funding thing


16 posted on 09/07/2017 8:14:20 AM PDT by BRL
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To: BobL

Nice summation.


17 posted on 09/07/2017 8:16:43 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: scottinoc

Many trumpsters drank the Donald’s kool-aid. He’s a life-long democrat and big government liberal. The more he shows his true colors, the more ridiculous the justifications from his rabid supporters will become.


18 posted on 09/07/2017 8:17:44 AM PDT by wny
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To: 198ml

Old story about a man and a mule:

An old farmer was selling a mule, a man stopped by to look at it. The man asked the farmer if he ever beat the mule and the farmer said no. Things moved on and they hooked a plow to the mule and the mule just stood there until the farmer pulled out a piece of 2x4 and whacked the mule which then began plowing a straight row. The man said “I thought you said you didn’t beat the mule.” The farmer replied, “I don’t, but sometimes you have to get his attention.”

I suspect Trump just got the GOPe’s attention.


19 posted on 09/07/2017 8:19:16 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: wny
The more he shows his true colors, the more ridiculous the justifications from his rabid supporters will become.

I'm not in total disagreement with your characterization of Trump, but this comment has me scratching my head. What exactly have his "true colors" been, to date?

20 posted on 09/07/2017 8:19:51 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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