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Tucson Stops Illegal Destruction of Firearms, Grudgingly Follows The Law
Ammoland ^ | 14 September, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 09/15/2017 1:35:27 PM PDT by marktwain

The City Council of Tucson has finally been forced to stop their irrational violation of state law. For years the city council has been destroying valuable property that could have been sold for the benefit of the public. Instead, they insisted on expensive destruction for political grandstanding.

Since 2013 they have ordered 4,820 guns to be destroyed, conservatively valued at between $500,000 and $1,000,000. Guns sold at auction by police routinely bring $100 – $200. One gun destroyed by the city is claimed to have been a rare collectible valued at $10,000.

A Colt Python in mint condition turned in to the Tucson Police in 2013 sells for about $3,000 in online auctions that must be processed through dealers. The revolver pictured is presumed to be one of the 4,820 firearms destroyed by the City of Tucson City Council.

It was turned in at a police “buy back” in Tucson in 2013. These events are more properly called gun turn-ins. The police cannot “buy back” guns that they never owned previously.

Surprisingly, the vote on the council to follow the law was close, 3-4.

From tucson.com:

The seven Democrats on the Tucson City Council, after meeting behind closed doors with their attorneys, said their hands were tied by the court’s decision. The city will begin auctioning off guns in the next few months to licensed gun dealers.

The vote Wednesday was not unanimous, however. The reversal of the policy narrowly passed 4-3, with council members Steve Kozachik, Karin Uhlich and Regina Romero voting against ending the practice.

Romero said she simply couldn’t stomach it.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; banglist; guns; tucson
Tucson is one of the most leftist places in Arizona.
1 posted on 09/15/2017 1:35:28 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: HiJinx

check this out.


2 posted on 09/15/2017 1:42:02 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: marktwain

Tucson had shall issue conceal and carry before the state did. We do OK.


3 posted on 09/15/2017 1:44:49 PM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: marktwain

One very quickly tires of governments great and small violating the law. Willful destruction of public property is a crime. Everyone responsible for destroying one million dollars worth of public property (guns) should be prosecuted for it.


4 posted on 09/15/2017 1:44:52 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: discostu
council members Steve Kozachik, Karin Uhlich and Regina Romero voting to continue violating the law. Did you vote for these individuals? What do you plan to do in the next election?
5 posted on 09/15/2017 1:46:20 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: NorthMountain

No, and it depends on who runs. We have a habit of nobody worth a crap running.

Meanwhile who’s really buying a gun from the popo? Not me. I like the fact that they don’t know if I own any guns and if so what. I’ll keep it that way.


6 posted on 09/15/2017 1:47:41 PM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: marktwain

Aw gee. You mean that DemocRATs actually have to follow a law? Unfair!


7 posted on 09/15/2017 1:53:56 PM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: discostu
We have a habit of nobody worth a crap running.

Can't say that my local politics is much different.

As for buying guns from the police ... I probably wouldn't do it either. Lots of people do, and those sales reduce my tax burden.

Long ago, I bought a rifle from the United States government. Still have it.

8 posted on 09/15/2017 1:55:01 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: marktwain

You mean, some one at last realized, that guns don’t kill. People using guns kill people.


9 posted on 09/15/2017 1:56:31 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: marktwain
Tucson is one of the most leftist places in Arizona.

A brother lives there and calls it the SF of the Southwest. A shame, there is a lot to like about northern Tucson.

10 posted on 09/15/2017 1:58:43 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: marktwain

This win is courtesy of the Arizona Citizens Defense League. http://azcdl.org/html/latest_news.html (scroll down to the August 18, 2017 article)


11 posted on 09/15/2017 2:22:49 PM PDT by Klaatu Barada Nikto (Liberty is not a Loophole)
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To: marktwain
Since 2013 they have ordered 4,820 guns to be destroyed, conservatively valued at between $500,000 and $1,000,000. Guns sold at auction by police routinely bring $100 – $200. One gun destroyed by the city is claimed to have been a rare collectible valued at $10,000.

OMG! What a waste.

And what sort of idiot turns in their guns? I just don't see the incentive. All it would do is put you on the police radar and leave you defenseless.

12 posted on 09/15/2017 2:26:18 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (President Trump is bearing the ''slings and arrows," as he said he would. God Bless him and the US)
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To: discostu
I like the fact that they don’t know if I own any guns and if so what. I’ll keep it that way.

Exactly! The less the government knows, the better.

13 posted on 09/15/2017 2:28:13 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (President Trump is bearing the ''slings and arrows," as he said he would. God Bless him and the US)
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To: proud American in Canada

> And what sort of idiot turns in their guns?

From what I’ve seen of “buybacks,” it’s not the owners turning in their guns, it’s the owner’s widow, kids, or grandkids, who have no clue what their late husband’s, dad’s, or granddad’s guns are worth. I suspect a lot of the best pieces don’t get destroyed at all, but end in some cop’s personal collection.


14 posted on 09/15/2017 2:57:15 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Hillary for Prison!)
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To: marktwain

“One gun destroyed by the city is claimed to have been a rare collectible valued at $10,000.”

Anyone else think maybe certain guns like this got pocketed and only reportedly destroyed?


15 posted on 09/15/2017 3:01:53 PM PDT by LeoTDB69
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To: marktwain
When I read of city governments doing these firearm destruction campaigns I have to wonder how they handle their police department firearm purchase contracts.

Most police departments when buying new firearms contract with a gun seller to trade in their old firearms for credit on the new firearms.

Anyone have any idea if Tucson made deals like this when replacing police weapons?

If they did their destruction of turned-in or confiscated weapons is simply foolish hypocrisy.

16 posted on 09/15/2017 4:57:58 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: discostu
"I like the fact that they don’t know if I own any guns and if so what."

I'm sorry to have to say that, I'm the world's worst week-end boating individual. I lost all of my weapons while boating one week-end. I still cry about that devastating week-end, of February 30th, (2000) wink, wink. It was very cold that week-end, that's why I remember it, like it was just yesterday.

Just as well, it was starting to cost a lot, to feed those sucker's. :-)

Just in case you or any other readers haven't figured it out, here is the OFFICIAL FREEREPUBLIC /s (end of sarcasm) tag.

February only has 28 day's, 29 day's during leap year.

17 posted on 09/16/2017 1:26:44 AM PDT by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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