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U.S. Christians' alarming choice: Betray faith or close your businesses
WND ^ | 09/26/2017 | Greg Corombos

Posted on 09/27/2017 12:14:06 PM PDT by ForYourChildren

'These laws are telling people to either toe the line or get out of the marketplace'

The lawyers for the Christian owners of a Minnesota video-services company are firing back after a federal judge there called the couple’s efforts to limit their wedding work to heterosexual couples “akin to a ‘White Applicants Only’ sign.”

Carl and Angel Larsen operate Telescope Media, a video business that the Larsens want to include wedding videos. But they have a problem in the recently amended Minnesota Human Rights Act, which forbids businesses to treat people differently based upon “race, color, national origin, sex, disability (or) sexual orientation.”

Violation of the Human Rights Act could result in fines as high as $25,000 per incident.

The Larsens launched a pre-emptive lawsuit that was rejected last week by federal Judge John Mannheim, who wrote that the effort by the Larsens to film weddings but decline requests to video same-sex ceremonies was “akin to a ‘White Applicants Only’ sign.”

The Alliance Defending Freedom, or ADF, is representing the Larsens. Senior counsel Jonathan Scruggs told WND and Radio America that Judge Tunheim’s rationale is way off base.

“That comparison is entirely false. The Larsens do not discriminate based on of any status,” Scruggs explained. “They are willing to serve all people, including people of all different sexual orientations. They just can’t promote messages they disagree with and events they disagree with. That’s a common-sense distinction.”

He said the judge’s disturbing language did not stop there.

“The court acknowledged that this law was raising First Amendment concerns yet said that was only an ‘incidental burden’ on the Larsens’ First Amendment rights, when they are compelled to create and promote videos of a same-sex wedding ceremony,” Scruggs said.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: businesses; christian; close; forced

1 posted on 09/27/2017 12:14:06 PM PDT by ForYourChildren
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To: ForYourChildren

“All these laws are telling people essentially to either toe the line or get out of the marketplace."



2 posted on 09/27/2017 12:14:28 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

Tell them you’re too booked for the date or on vacation. Nothing wrong in giving the cake decorator the day off.


3 posted on 09/27/2017 12:17:39 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: bgill

‘Busy, have you tried Ahmed and Mohammed yet?’


4 posted on 09/27/2017 12:21:16 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: ForYourChildren
Mark of the beast?

What you think? - “on their foreheads”. Ideology.
What you do? -”on their right hands” - your actions.

I have been thinking about this for some time.

5 posted on 09/27/2017 12:22:56 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: ForYourChildren

I see where this is going!

1933: The Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses in Germany begin

1933: law passed which restricted employment, Jews could not serve as teachers, professors, judges, or in other government positions.

1935: “Nuremberg Laws” are passed; more stringent employment restrictions, such as Jewish actors, authors, and journalists

1939: banned Jews completely from public life (after the invasion of Poland)


6 posted on 09/27/2017 12:26:22 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

Today:

- Diane Feinstein and other lawmakers place religion Christian test on judges.
- States force Christian businesses to close.
- Christians forced out of universities.


7 posted on 09/27/2017 12:27:07 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: bgill

Yes. These business owners are being held hostage by their honesty. They could have a host of ways to exit a contract. I don’t think that things will ever change unless business owners are helped to stand up by legal societies. One should not have to lie to avoid being forced out of business.

If same sex couple want to marry then they should seek vendors that are comfortable with the concept rather than trying to ram their historically unpopular choices down the throats of vendors chosen because they are going to have moral conflicts. The whole practice is based on shaming and sidelining Christians.


8 posted on 09/27/2017 12:27:56 PM PDT by JayGalt (Let Trump Be Trump)
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To: ForYourChildren

Replace the word "Jew" (Jude) with "Christian"; and the Star of David with the Cross.


9 posted on 09/27/2017 12:28:52 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

I missed this in the timeline:

1938: Göring issued the “Decree on the Exclusion of Jews from German Economic Life,” Jews were forbidden to own retail stores and workshops and to sell merchandise and services. Jewish businesses were confiscated by the state, closed, or transferred to “non-Jewish” ownership.


10 posted on 09/27/2017 12:29:59 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren
Use Minnesota Human Rights Act, which forbids businesses to treat people differently based upon “race, color, national origin, sex, disability... against them if any business treats currently military oh and that includes ROTC cADETS, cops, fireman, ambulance,veteran, war service handicapped are discriminated against.
11 posted on 09/27/2017 12:31:00 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: ForYourChildren
“They are willing to serve all people, including people of all different sexual orientations."

If they are a wedding video company who doesn't film gay weddings then doesn't that pretty much eliminate homosexuals from their "willing to serve" category?

12 posted on 09/27/2017 12:35:01 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: right way right

“Mark of the beast?”

well, I am postmil. Most of that occurred during, around, 70 AD.


13 posted on 09/27/2017 12:36:20 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

Think.

Why did Tim Allens “Last Man Standing” TV show get cancelled?

Can’t have those good conservative values based on Christianity to exist.

Nope. Cancel Tim Allens show.

How about James Woods?
How about any other Christian in Hollyweird. No job for you!


14 posted on 09/27/2017 12:41:33 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

There are many articles similar to the following.

“The Left is forcing Christians out of colleges.”

May 10, 2017

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/the-truth-shall-set-you-free


15 posted on 09/27/2017 12:45:18 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

The lawyer is drawing the very distinction I’ve been saying...

There’s a difference between serving a person something you already have and serving an EVENT to which you disagree. You are discriminating against the EVENT, but are happy to make anything for other events for the same person.

I know a lot of FReepers feel all these laws are garbage. That said, even with them in place, free speech laws have covered this ground.

Jewish baker must bake a Nazi cake
Black baker must bake a KKK cake
Christian printer must print gay pride t-shirts

...it’s not about not serving a person, it’s the content that is objectionable. It is covered by compelled/coerced speech rulings.


16 posted on 09/27/2017 12:53:39 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: right way right
What you think? - “on their foreheads”. Ideology.
What you do? -”on their right hands” - your actions.

methinks you're on to something.

17 posted on 09/27/2017 12:59:18 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: ForYourChildren

Exactly.

It’s only a matter of time before white kids are beat up in school, white owned businesses have their windows smashed and white people are beaten in the streets.


18 posted on 09/28/2017 1:23:49 PM PDT by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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