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Tripping Over an Inconvenient Truth for Leftists, Regarding White Privilege
My own thoughts | 10/08/2017 | Doughtyone for Free Republic

Posted on 10/08/2017 7:53:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne

While working on another study this afternoon, I stumbled across some figures that might be enlightening to others.  It was surprising to me.

You see, I'm a member of a very special group.  Born white, male, and over 65 years of age, I'm guilty of white Privilege, (according to some people).

Yes, I am hanging my head in shame, moving it from side to side.  ( /s )  How did I ever sink to this level?  Clearly there is a problem.  (Or is there?)  Can I ever atone for this?  Can you?

Our white youth are considered to have an unfair advantage.  Nobody else gets the breaks they do.  Why it's a national scandal (and again, this according to some people).

Well, I stumbled across a CDC report on Suicides in the 18 to 24 age group.  The study was worked up for 2012 & 2013.  Here is what the CDC reported out.

As strange as it may seem, it seems to indicate there's a possibility that white males in that group may not be so privileged after all.

In this study, five groups were quantified by suicide rates.  Male vs Female figures were provided, so there are ten interesting figures available to you here.  I provide some of my own for comparsions.

Non-hispanic Whites
Non-hispanic Blacks
Hispanics
Asian or Pacific Islander
American Indian or Alaskan Native


On a side note, isn't it interesting they can't talk about Whites or Blacks anymore without specifying they aren't Hispanic.  Wouldn't you think they might realize we'd know what they are talking about without that "Non-hispanic" tossed in.  If they thought they needed to explain, they could have made a foot note.  No, whites and blacks are no longer groups that can be discussed without mentioning their relationship to what the CDC must consider the Superior Race.

Shouldn't they reference the Non-Hispanic Asian or Non-Hispanic Pacific Islanders?  How about the Non-hispanic American Indians or the Non-hispanic Alaskan Natives?  How insulting can the CDC get, not mentioning Non-hispanic once, in relation to these groups?  The CDC should be ashamed.

I realize there's some overlap on the racial map.  I'm not a complete dolt. There's been no special notification of it by mail though.  It hasn't been printed in the local paper three times, unless I missed it.  So the "dolt" clarification may be warranted for Whites, it still isn't official.  An this should be addressed as a foot-note.

I am Caucasion.  I am white.  If you wish to talk about other people's afiliation, explain what you mean when you address them.

I am part of the dominant race in the United States, and chosing to sub-categorize the dominant race is just idiotic.  It's also incredibly insulting to blacks, to not be able to address them without bringing hispanics into it.  Good grief.


Here are the numbers the CDC pointed out.  (remember the age group 18-24 and the reporting period is 2012 & 2013)  Graph source Page  (Raw figures also provided below)

Whites have it so much better than others ( /s ), so keep that in mind as you study the figures of "the oppressed" and how they compare to white males (in particular).  You know, the most priviledged of us all.  (cough cough)

(clicking the graph link at some point is a good idea, because it reveals the relationships more clearly)

Figures are reported in insidents per 100,000  (I will be using leading zeros to keep the columnes straight)

On the right will be figures in red.  Those figures will be the comparitive death rates of white males compared to the figures on the left.  Green comparitive figures will reveal the death rates of the males compared to the females in the sub-group.

Again: Red comparision white male deaths compared to the deaths addressed on the left
Again: Green comparison of males in sub-group deaths to females in same sub-group


Whites:
  24.8 Males
 100.00%
  05.5 Females  450.91%  450.91%

Blacks:
  14.7 Males  168.71%
  03.1 Females  800.00%
 474.19%

Hispanics:
  12.9 Males  192.25%
  03.2 Females  475.00%  403.13%

Asian & Pacific Islanders:
  13.0 Males  190.77%
  05.0 Females  476.92%  250.00%

Ameircan Indians & Alaskan Natives
  34.3 Males  72.30%
  09.9 Females  250.51%  346.46%


Shouldn't the male suicide rates of the privileged class be the lowest of any male group?  I mean, they have it made.  They have no worries, and there are supposedly no problems in life for them.  ( /s )

Shouldn't the death rate for males be much lower in each group compared to females?  I mean, after all, males have it better than the women do in every segment of our society don't they?

Look at those numbers folks.  In the 18 to 24 segment during 2012 & 2013, white males committed suicide in numbers that ranged from 168.71% more on the low end to 800.00% more on the high end.  (one exception to addressed later on)

White men in this age group commit suicide 800% more than Black women.  White men even commited suicide at a rate 168.71% higher than black men.

As for women who claim men in each group have it better than them, look at the comparison figures in green.  Then pay close attention to how the white men's numbers compare.  

White men commit suicide at a much higher rate in every category but one.  That would be the males in the American Indian & Alaskan Native category.  I don't want to see any deaths in that category.  AIAN males die at a rate that is 138.31% higher than white (males), 233.33% higher than black (males), and 265.89% higher than hispanics (males).  (I would like to see what things can be done to change this through outreach and helping hand methods.  I don't want to see a big government fix.  In fact, this is what I would hope for in each category.)

Expressing these thoughts about AIAN males, I also want to touch on the reason for their inclusion.  It's my take that the numbers in this group make them statistically meaningless, however,... they do have one purpose here.  AIAN males are estimated (by me) to be roughly 0.4% or our populace.  Source data  So although there is clearly a problem there that needs addressing, posting those figures with other groups who represent roughly 65%, 15%, and 12% of our populace may be statistically misleading.

White males make up roughly 31% of our populace
Graph source Page, roughly 98,983,000 of 318.6 million citizens in 2014 LINK.  Compare that to 0.4% of our populace, (approximately) just 1,274,000.  Which group has the largest number of suicides per year?  Clearly the white male segment of our populace has exponenetially more deaths by suicide each year.  Where suicide is the topic, every group needs to be addressed, so that reasoned measures can be considered for lessening them.  And in that, it was useful to include the AIAN numbers.

Where racial minorities or even gender considerations are made, it's simply undeniable that whites in this age group have problems.  Life isn't just a bown of cherries for them.  They have stresses few think about, and I'm not convinced there are resources out there, or that they are trained to access them like other groups are.  White males are essentially the lone rangers these days, adrift in too many isntances.

A number of entities are now openly trashing them.  One political party seems to hate them.  Some folks openly talk of them crawling off somewhere and dying.  And no, they aren't kidding.

In light of this, not only should it be obvious that the destructive rhetoric needs to be toned down, to prevent these statistics from getting worse for white males, but also for the fact that truth should be revealed.  Good luck with what that.



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1 posted on 10/08/2017 7:53:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

Hispanic = Spaniards + Mestizos. Brazilians excluded. Latinos too.


2 posted on 10/08/2017 7:57:01 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: DoughtyOne

Leftists have caused this suicide rate. Leftist have used the media and the school system to destroy the white male, financially, socially and physically. And it’s working.


3 posted on 10/08/2017 8:16:49 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: DoughtyOne

Thanks for crunching the numbers, Daughty. It’s good to see the factual comparisons between the races as the liberal media will hatefully skew the comparisons between white males and other racial groups.


4 posted on 10/08/2017 10:07:04 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: DoughtyOne

I’m white.
Don’t like it?
Ef all y’all.


5 posted on 10/08/2017 10:18:04 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: DoughtyOne

Here’s one almost no one talks about: white people who grew up in Hawaii. I spent my whole childhood being called a “fuckin haole” which means the fight is on, equivalent to the “N” word. Brutal, knock-down fights I was attacked probably 100 plus times. I was shot point-blank in the eye with a BB gun, I was hit across the head with a baseball bat. I’d have to reach deep to find my “privilege.”

Here is the problem: We are being divided and have been divided as a country for too long. It needs to end.

We should all be AMERICANS. Or get the eff out.


6 posted on 10/08/2017 10:55:32 PM PDT by KJC1 (When you are dealing with the devil, the only answer is God.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I remember entering the lower level of the GW bridge when I heard about “The Angry White Male.” That was over 30 years ago. The malicious accusations haven’t let up.

Hating on those that are sacrificing their days for the economy doesn’t inspire a healthy society. No surprise many give in to the futility. And while I’m feeling the futility, quitting isn’t an option despite the progression of years that wear us down. Damn, I could use a break ;)


7 posted on 10/09/2017 12:18:43 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Born over 65 years of age. You are truly special.


8 posted on 10/09/2017 12:43:58 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: DoughtyOne

Hispanic is not a race and only an ethnicity to people who think that “all them spiks are alike.”


9 posted on 10/09/2017 12:46:39 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: DoughtyOne

“White” people made the rich civilized world that everyone else is living in. Other-colored people in non white nations are richer and in all material ways better off than they would be were there no “white” civilization.


10 posted on 10/09/2017 12:54:01 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: DoughtyOne
Thanks, Doughty.

Although suicide among young white males is about twice as high as other ethnic groups, the numbers are so small I really wonder if it is statistically significant?

Another way of looking at this...

0.02% (two one-hundredths of one percent) of young white males commit suicide each year - and, at age 18-24, that is often an impulsive and a senselessly immature decision.

0.01% (one one-hundredth of one percent) of young non-white males commit suicide each year.

I agree that every young death is a tragedy.

But those are really, really small numbers.

It means that 999 out of 1,000 young white males will NOT commit suicide between the age of 18 and 24.

11 posted on 10/09/2017 2:26:02 AM PDT by zeestephen
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Born . . . over 65 years of age

How did you accomplish that? I was born at an early age, and it took me all my life (so far) to get old.

12 posted on 10/09/2017 3:38:00 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: arthurus

Yes, I’ve realized “white privilege” actually means “white accomplishment” (both collectively and for individuals today) - and for the non-whites who use the term, it is an assumption of racial superiority of whites.

Many have given up on keeping up; the phrase “white privilege” is their white flag. Now they’ll sit back and excuse their underperformance/lack of performance.


13 posted on 10/09/2017 5:22:55 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: DoughtyOne

The working theory is that white males, being the dominant group, have nothing / no one to blame their failures on. So when they fail they commit suicide.

Minorities always have a handy excuse for their failures.


14 posted on 10/09/2017 8:16:33 AM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Paladin2
Thanks Paladin2.
15 posted on 10/09/2017 12:40:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: Crucial
Thanks Crucial. They've sure tried to. I'll give them that...
16 posted on 10/09/2017 12:41:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: Crucial
Thanks Crucial..

As someone else mentioned, that numbers aren't astronomical, but if black women were dying at 8 times the rate of white men in that age group (from the same thing), it would be screamed about from the mountain tops.

17 posted on 10/09/2017 12:45:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: onedoug

“:^)


18 posted on 10/09/2017 12:45:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: KJC1

Sorry you had to go through that. Nobody should.

If I knew of a black kid having to put up with that at the hands of whites, there would be some very sorry whites.

Yes, we should be decent to our fellow man.

Frankly it’s a lot easier in the long run.


19 posted on 10/09/2017 12:48:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: Gene Eric
Thanks Gene Eric. I hear ya.
20 posted on 10/09/2017 12:49:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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