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The uniformitarian puzzle of mountaintop planation surfaces
Creation Ministries International ^ | 10-10-17 | The uniformitarian puzzle of mountaintop planation surfaces

Posted on 10/10/2017 7:53:26 AM PDT by fishtank

The uniformitarian puzzle of mountaintop planation surfaces

by Michael J. Oard

Planation surfaces are a common feature across the earth.1,2 But secular researchers often find these surfaces perplexing because it is not unusual to find them at the top of rugged mountains (figure 1):

“Extensive tracts of low-gradient topography in steep mountain ranges, either forming rangetop plateaus or terraced pediments on range flanks are widely distributed in mountain belts around the world.”3 Calvet et al.’s survey of these flat-topped mountains establishes their frequency across the globe.3 Calvet et al. also point out that they are even found atop some of the most active and rapidly eroding mountains on the planet.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; flood; planation

Figure 1. Gypsum Mountain, north-west Wind River Mountains, Wyoming, USA. The strata dip to the west at about 40°, but they have been planed flat.

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1 posted on 10/10/2017 7:53:26 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

Martian landing fields, obviously.


2 posted on 10/10/2017 7:56:11 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: fishtank
No mystery about it. The current Rockies (yes, there were ancestral ones) were uplifted 70 million years ago or so in the Laramide Orogeny. They were then eroded until they were a level plain with a few peaks poking up. Then the entire region was uplifted again, probably from the Yellowstone and Raton hot spots migrating underneath the region, and the eroded debris was transported away, leaving the eroded surface elevated. The best example of what this used to look like is the Gangplank in SE Wyoming, where the original erosional surface is still continuous to the top of the Laramie Mountains, a very convenient situation for the Union Pacific.

I've been to both the peneplains of the Wind River Range at 12,000 feet and the Gangplank.

3 posted on 10/10/2017 8:19:15 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: grobdriver
The hills are alive with the sound of music
With songs they have sung for a thousand years
The hills fill my heart with the sound of music
My heart wants to sing every song it hears
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4 posted on 10/10/2017 8:36:03 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: dirtboy

Thanks for that. I learnt more reading your post than I have from years of creationist ‘science’ articles.


5 posted on 10/10/2017 12:03:51 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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I had a geophysicist/geologist buddy clue me in to the natural history of the West, Utah and Colorado in particular, and the series of mountain building, erosion, shallow seas, dune deserts etc...I remember he said there have been 5 different cycles of this...Explains the brown, tan, pink layers in the sedimentary rock formations...

I now look at the drive across central Utah (San Rafael Swell, in particular) entirely differently...

Thanks for the post...


6 posted on 10/10/2017 12:30:13 PM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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Yeah, when I was in the Winds, it was a NOLS course with a geology doctoral candidate as one of the instructors, and we got a field course in geology as part of the curricula. The Winds have been called the ultimate expression of the Laramide Orogeny. Hiking in from the East, you pass through progressively older tilted sedimentary layers until you get to the Precambrian basement rock that forms the highest peaks.


7 posted on 10/10/2017 1:52:29 PM PDT by dirtboy
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8 posted on 10/10/2017 3:45:06 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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http://www.icr.org/article/8801

Remembering Mount St. Helens 35 Years Later

by Brian Thomas, M.S. *

Evidence for Creation › Evidence from Science › Evidence from the Earth Sciences › The Global Flood Is the Key to the Past

The volcano’s main 1980 eruption filled in an entire valley with hundreds of feet of sediment. Another smaller eruption event deposited more material on top of that, and then a third deposition occurred in 1982. Later, a catastrophic flood of snowmelt water and muddy debris tore a gash through those fresh deposits, revealing sharp and flat contacts between each earlier deposit. It also showed that fast-flowing currents can lay down multiple layers thinner than a finger width.....

9 posted on 10/10/2017 3:46:10 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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Modern geology accepts certain levels of catastrophism now. The Channeled Scablands. Grand Canyon of PA. And St. Helens. Doesn't make creationism correct. The first two were caused by glacial melting, the second by a recent volcanic eruption and its aftermath.

And please tell me again, what the picture you just posted has to do with peneplains in the Wind River Mountains. Once again, I have seen those in person and hiked across them. And hiked all the way across the tilted sedimentary sequences on the east flank of the range. That cannot be explained by a Flood.

10 posted on 10/10/2017 5:58:51 PM PDT by dirtboy
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