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ĎHe threw a fití: Trumpís anger over Iran deal forced aides to scramble for a compromise
MSN News ^ | October 12, 2017 | Anne Gearan

Posted on 10/12/2017 8:00:14 AM PDT by detective

President Trump was livid. Why, he asked his advisers in mid-July, should he go along with what he considered the failed Obama-era policy toward Iran and prop up an international nuclear deal he saw as disastrous?

He was incensed by the arguments of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and others that the landmark 2015 deal, while flawed, offered stability and other benefits. He did not want to certify to Congress that the agreement remained in the vital U.S. national security interest and that Iran was meeting its obligations. He did not think either was true.

“He threw a fit,” said one person familiar with the meeting. “. . .He was furious. Really furious. It’s clear he felt jammed.”

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: certification; fakenews; iran; iraniannukes; newsmisleadia; third100days; trump; trumpirandeal; trumpmattis; trumptillerson
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Very interesting article.

Though it is written with an attack Trump theme and probably contains false information, the article does show some important things that are happening within the Trump administration.

1. His advisors, especially McMaster, are working actively to undermine both Trump's foreign policy and the nation's security. It appears they are trying to persuade Trump to push for certification of the fraudulent Iran deal. They are not being honest about it. The article gives details about their plotting and conniving.

2. It is evident those within the Trump administration are leaking damaging attacks against Trump that probably are not true. The story that Trump "threw a fit" in a small private meeting was given to the media by attendees at that meeting. 3. The Washington establishment really likes the illegal, fraudulent "Iran Deal" the details of which have been hidden from the public.

That Iran has violated the provisions of the supposed "deal" does not seem to be a concern.

4.It appears that Trump is being sabotaged from within.

1 posted on 10/12/2017 8:00:14 AM PDT by detective
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To: detective

“Why, he asked his advisers in mid-July, should he go along with what he considered the failed Obama-era policy toward Iran and prop up an international nuclear deal he saw as disastrous?”

Good question.


2 posted on 10/12/2017 8:04:48 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: detective

the landmark 2015 deal, while flawed, offered stability and other benefits.


Giving your lunch money to the school bully offers “stability and other benefits”.

Trump does not look like the “give your lunch money to the bully” type, as we are discovering with the NORKs.

He’s more of a “I’ll meet you on the playground” type.

This is a good thing.


3 posted on 10/12/2017 8:06:03 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: detective

Can you imagine the blow back if the press said Hillary “threw a fit”?


4 posted on 10/12/2017 8:06:16 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (A year in Arizona... and I haven't burst into flames yet.)
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To: detective

Making a deal with Iran, ANY deal, is akin to owning a donut shop and asking Michael Moore to guard the donuts. What kind of lunatic would ever think Iran would EVER ever ever follow any kind of deal? They’re psychopaths!! You cannot make deals with psychopaths!


5 posted on 10/12/2017 8:07:34 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Trump: Greatest POTUS of all time solely for preventing Satan taking office.)
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To: detective
He was furious. Really furious.

At least they weren't dodging ashtrays ala that psychopathic Clinton bitch.

6 posted on 10/12/2017 8:10:36 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: SandyInSeattle

There would never be any reports of it at all.....absolutely NEVER..............


7 posted on 10/12/2017 8:11:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: detective

This “agreement” is not a treaty, it has no legal or moral validity, since, had it been submitted to the Senate, it would not have been ratified.

The purpose of treaties going to the Senate, and requiring a supermajority for ratification, is so that the States are not bound against their will to a foreign arrangement (remember, Senators are supposed to be ambassadors from their States).

The President has no authority to treat with foreign powers in a way that binds the States. And, as Congress has the sole and exclusive power to legislate for DC “in all cases whatsoever”, the President alone has no authority to bind even DC to a foreign power.


8 posted on 10/12/2017 8:11:49 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

It’s a good thing Iran doesn’t have a history of otherwise psychotic behavior.


9 posted on 10/12/2017 8:15:37 AM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: detective

The Washington establishment really likes the illegal, fraudulent “Iran Deal” the details of which have been hidden from the public.


Maybe there’s a provision for free “pizza” (wink, wink) for swamp rats.


10 posted on 10/12/2017 8:16:49 AM PDT by samtheman (As an oil exporter, why would the Russians prefer Trump to Hillary? (Get it or be stupid.))
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To: detective

It appears the swamp is much deeper than even Trump ever imagined.


11 posted on 10/12/2017 8:19:13 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: detective

hidden in plain sight

https://www.state.gov/e/eb/tfs/spi/iran/jcpoa/


12 posted on 10/12/2017 8:19:30 AM PDT by stylin19a (Lynch & Clinton - Snakes on a Plane)
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To: detective

Since it seems many of the leak sources have been squelched, the media now has to dredge up old articles. This one is for the trouble-in-the-WH narrative.


13 posted on 10/12/2017 8:20:40 AM PDT by TomGuy
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McMaster isn’t bright enough to set policy. Mattis the never married General will strike a dramatic pose and say something scary sounding...before he advises Trump to just go along to get along. Tillerson is used to compromises... just look at the Boy Scouts with homosexuality.


14 posted on 10/12/2017 8:22:18 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: detective

Is there a second but reliable source for this “story”


15 posted on 10/12/2017 8:22:39 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Jim Noble

Well stated. And remember...Corker made this deal such that it did not have to go to the Senate. Another traitor.


16 posted on 10/12/2017 8:23:46 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: detective
What all of these article miss about Trump is that he is not a "tactical" negotiator - well given the deal we already have, what's the next step to negotiate, but a "breakthrough" negotiator - the deals we have make no sense, we are tearing them up and we are going to move, lock stock and barrel to a better place where we get a fair deal for us.

It's part of an old adage - never negotiate a deal that the other side can't live with. Well in our diplomatic impotency we have negotiated deals that we can't actually live with.

Thus it is with rocket-man. When Trump's response was "fire and fury" "locked and loaded" he changed the ground rules. Rocketman thought he was negotiating the terms of American surrender (more pay, less American play in the region). Instead Trump came back with two choices: back down and back off, or give it your best shot and you and your kith and kin are vapor.

That's what Trump does. No one else does that, or, in fact can do that. If other in the administration are doing what they can within the rules that exist that isn't actually sabotaging Trump. It's acting within the discretion of your office. The President can do things no one else can do. That's why he is President.

17 posted on 10/12/2017 8:25:49 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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Trump does not look like the “give your lunch money to the bully” type, as we are discovering with the NORKs. He’s more of a “I’ll meet you on the playground” type. This is a good thing.

Not a good thing. Working out a better solution is a good thing. This is not a playground; it's possibly our lives.

18 posted on 10/12/2017 8:29:40 AM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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Dark days for the Republic. There appears to be NOBODY that this President can rely on that does not have an agenda contrary to his. Not his family, not his cabinet, certainly not Congress and more certainly, the government bureaucracy.

It safe to say that no President has ever faced such opposition. The government that is supposed to be answerable to the people is in open revolt. I see no happy ending here. The traitors in open revolt will not stop.

But here’s a warning: Don’t awaken the sleeping dragon. Overthrow the President and there will be no place on Earth for you to hide.


19 posted on 10/12/2017 8:32:30 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Veto!

Why don’t you put on a dress and swish around for us? It is very much a good thing to be the one who doesn’t get the lunch money taken away.

If the bully comes up and demands your lunch money, “working out a solution” isn’t in the cards. That is essentially what we are facing in the world. Unreasonable demands that do NOTHING for us.

You don’t meet people like that in the middle.


20 posted on 10/12/2017 8:33:40 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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