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Do the Math. Tax Cuts Are Bound to Increase the National Debt
Townhall ^ | 10/16/2017 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 10/16/2017 10:33:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 10/16/2017 10:33:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

When investors sell appreciated stock, it does get taxed and that does help the nation’s fiscal stance, which is worse than the 20 trillion dollars that’s out in public debt.

Tax cuts that stimulate growth do result in increased tax revenues that can pay off as much as 20% of the tax cut amount over time. Whether these particular tax cuts would lead to growth is harder to say. We are near full employment, the Fed is raising rates. If we started to see growth overheating they would just raise rates faster.

The main economic effect of the currently proposed tax cuts would likely be higher interest rates rather than higher GDP growth.


2 posted on 10/16/2017 10:39:05 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: SeekAndFind

Nope.... Tax cuts create more tax payers and over a period of 10 years more tax revenue. It goes up and not down.

We cannot tax ourselves into prosperity despite what this writer thinks.


3 posted on 10/16/2017 10:40:15 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: SeekAndFind

Do I gotta say it?

4 posted on 10/16/2017 10:41:13 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Saunders is the alleged house “conservative” at the San Francisco Chronicle.

Which means she’s merely Left of center, not batshit crazy.


5 posted on 10/16/2017 10:41:36 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: SeekAndFind
Kennedy cut taxes and the economy roared to life.

Regan cut taxes and the economic boom was so strong that it took Clinton 8 years to kill it, in spite of his tax hikes.

Revenue to the treasury increased as a result of both tax cuts.

6 posted on 10/16/2017 10:42:13 AM PDT by NutsOnYew (If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So what? If you only focus on the national debt you are only gonna kill yourself. Don’t worry, be happy!


7 posted on 10/16/2017 10:44:04 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Tax cuts are NOT a static “math” assessment!

Tax cuts are a DYNAMIC economic assessment!

Consumer decisions are INVESTMENTS weather you are the end consumer or a producer at any level.

Taxes are a component in any expenditure.

When the tax costs are lower, more money is available for PRODUCTIVE investment.


8 posted on 10/16/2017 10:45:17 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not if Trump passes a 10% tax on all advertising:
...TV (MSNBC, NBC, etc.),
...Radio (ABC, CBS, etc.),
...Newspapers (NYT, WP, etc.),
...Magazines(Time, Newsweek, etc.
...Internet (Facebook, Google, etc.)

When the MSM starts to complain, remind them that it’s for the children.


9 posted on 10/16/2017 10:46:14 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: SeekAndFind

Do the math. If you want to lower debt, cut spending.


10 posted on 10/16/2017 10:51:20 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (CNN IS ISIS.)
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To: Enlightened1

Nailed It !


The John Maynard Keynes/FDR Idea Of "Tax & Spend" to Prosperity NEVER WILL WORK! Never Has Worked!!

11 posted on 10/16/2017 10:52:29 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: NutsOnYew

Initially there is a jump in the debt but once they kick in the revenue jumps quickly. If you control your spending you will be fine. The problem is congress can’t control it’s spending. Normally I would say the Democrat congress but the Republican congress is just as bad.


12 posted on 10/16/2017 10:52:33 AM PDT by sarge83
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The message: Instead of adding to the $20 trillion national debt, the GOP tax cut will pay for itself; there's no need to produce some $5 trillion in savings over the next decade to pay for the cuts.

For Pete's Sake!!!! A tax cut is NOT an expense, therefore you don't "pay for it".

Only in the world of leftists is the government "allowing" you to keep more of the money you earn something that needs to be paid for.

13 posted on 10/16/2017 10:54:23 AM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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The problem is congress can’t control it’s spending.

You have hit on the fundamental truth: we're not "undertaxed". We're "overspent".

14 posted on 10/16/2017 10:54:30 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: babble-on

She’s wrong. Does not adequately account for revenue from a much larger GDP. The CBO also ignores this as it scores using static figures.

Reagan’s second year after tax cuts had 7+ percent GDP growth.


15 posted on 10/16/2017 10:55:40 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: babble-on

True. Plus, stock market gains help the retirement plans, mostly belonging to public employees and seriously underfunded.


16 posted on 10/16/2017 10:57:58 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: SeekAndFind

Klownhall.


17 posted on 10/16/2017 10:58:08 AM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: sarge83
Initially there is a jump in the debt

Right, because the effect of the tax cut follows the cut when money for investment and growth accumulates in the economy.

18 posted on 10/16/2017 11:06:48 AM PDT by NutsOnYew (If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be.)
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To: Enlightened1

Years ago I saw a comparison between the number of times a dollar turns over in the real economy vs how many time it turns over when sent to the government in taxes.

Amazing difference in that transactions in the real economy either pay people’s salary or purchases goods (which in turn pays peoples salary).


19 posted on 10/16/2017 11:09:01 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: SeekAndFind
Speaking to a group of workers in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, President Donald Trump said Wednesday that his proposed tax-cut package "will be rocket fuel" for the U.S. economy.

It was Trump's sly way of reinforcing a message that the White House has sent since it first rolled out a framework for the tax cut in April.

This is from the White House transcript.

This huge -- (laughter) -- tax cut -- two words, "huge" and now "rocket." Can you believe it? I have (inaudible.) Rocket! You know what we're talking about, folks, don't worry about it. It will be rocket fuel and it will be rocket fuel for our economy.
That is anything but sly. Quite refreshing, I'd say.
20 posted on 10/16/2017 11:09:51 AM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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