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Mass. Senate holds public hearing on bump stock ban, but no one shows up
masslive.com ^ | 10/18/2017 | Shira Schoenberg

Posted on 10/19/2017 9:31:04 AM PDT by rktman

After the Massachusetts Legislature sped restrictions on bump stocks, a tool to increase the firing rate of guns, through the legislative process, senators opened the issue up to a public hearing.

No members of the public showed up.

"I was not going to ask most of our people to take a day off and come to the Statehouse to talk about something that already happened," said Jim Wallace, executive director of Gun Owners' Action League of Massachusetts.

(Excerpt) Read more at masslive.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; massachusetts
So, since no one showed up from either side, is that tacit agreement that Mass should ban or restrict bump stocks? After all, without a bunch of bump stocks, the Las Vegas incident would probably never have happened. Right? Fidiots.
1 posted on 10/19/2017 9:31:04 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

It isn’t about safety or preventing shootings - it’s about banning something, anything to do with firearms. Any restriction even a trivial one is a step in the right direction for the tyrants and a step in the wrong direction for the rest of us.


2 posted on 10/19/2017 9:33:59 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: rktman

Why doesn’t maura healey just issue one of her administrative actions to ban them?


3 posted on 10/19/2017 9:34:17 AM PDT by C210N (It is easier to fool the people than convince them that they have been fooled)
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To: rktman

No one attended because anyone who moderately pays attention knows that these hearings are for show. The pigs on Bacon Hill will do what they want, confident that their moronic constituents will reelect them if they spew enough politically correct nonsense come election time.


4 posted on 10/19/2017 9:37:53 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: LostInBayport

MassHoles.


5 posted on 10/19/2017 9:41:02 AM PDT by IWontSubmit (2)
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To: rktman

Anyone who modifies a rifle to increase its rate of firing would be punished by three to 20 years in prison.

The bills were passed quickly without any public hearing.


Sounds like they were also passed without any actual THOUGHT involved.


6 posted on 10/19/2017 9:41:38 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: rktman

At Sandy Hook “fired 154 bullets in about five minutes” ... without a bump stock.


7 posted on 10/19/2017 9:44:06 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: rktman

So, since no one showed up from either side, is that tacit agreement that Mass should ban or restrict bump stocks?

Ever read about hearings that were held that nobody knew about except the politicans ? Sounds like this is one of them. Best a look see into this before they announce the result.


8 posted on 10/19/2017 9:45:17 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin)
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To: IWontSubmit

I am actually a member of GOAL (great organization) and knew about this, but like most conservatives, I have to work for a living, and secondly, it is all about show as is most gun legislation. It is kabuki theater, doesn’t affect me.

I didn’t even know bump stocks existed, even though I knew the concept of bump firing and had tried it semi-successfully once, but didn’t want to really make it work since nobody wants to attract unwanted attention at a gun range, right?

Thing is, I see this largely as virtue signalling by liberals who want to show they are doing something about “gun violence” (even though they aren’t, which is fine too because their concept of “gun violence” and mine are quite different) with no impact on my right to own and carry a gun.

To me, this is like a hearing to pass legislation on whether guns should be allowed to be black in color or not, or whether it should be allowed to have a bayonet mount.


9 posted on 10/19/2017 9:52:58 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: LostInBayport
No one attended because anyone who moderately pays attention knows that these hearings are for show.

Exactly. A decade or so back, I went to one of these 'public hearings' in Rochester, NY, as they prepared to ban 'assault weapons' in city limits.

I went to the podium and spoke of my DCM-CMP program shooting competitions, and how this would ban my sport.

Many other people went to the podium ... some collectors, some competitors, some who simply objected because of the horrible definitions and all-encompassing nature of the ban (Glock pistols and 1911-style .45's were caught up as 'assault weapons) in the definition... even the humble Ruger 10/22 was caught up.)

At the end, the leader of the City Council stood up and said, "I have listened to all of you. However, I recommend to my colleagues to pass this legislation. I will NOT REST if there is even ONE ASSAULT WEAPON in this city."

In other words, "Yeah, but f*** you."

10 posted on 10/19/2017 10:12:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: rktman
The irony is that use of a bump stock as opposed to aimed rifle fire probably saved lives.

Given that he was shooting for 10 minutes, 600 seconds, and assuming he took two seconds between shots and 10 seconds to reload after every 30 shots, he could easily have gotten off 240 aimed shots into a packed crowd. He would have killed a lot more than 58 people.

11 posted on 10/19/2017 10:19:12 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Dump Flake)
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To: rlmorel
or whether it should be allowed to have a bayonet mount.

Already banned in MA thanks to Mitt Romney and ex-AG Scott Harshbarger. Along with flash suppressors, folding stocks, magazines over 10 rounds and lots more.

12 posted on 10/19/2017 10:21:31 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Yeah. I know. But how many people who come on this forum and pop off about this actually go to these hearings?

Very few, I would guess.


13 posted on 10/19/2017 10:28:12 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: Lazamataz

What a bunch of pansies. I bet you’re glad you escaped that tyrannical gulag of a town.


14 posted on 10/19/2017 10:38:07 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of MAGA. Likely have a civil war before we get more.)
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To: Lazamataz
At the end, the leader of the City Council stood up and said, "I have listened to all of you. However, I recommend to my colleagues to pass this legislation. I will NOT REST if there is even ONE ASSAULT WEAPON in this city."

His mind was made up before the meeting, and like any true ideologue, he wasn't going to let anything change it. Plus, he probably spent a good amount of time rehearsing that dramatic announcement and wasn't about to miss his "moment" for something trivial like giving consideration to the views of others.
15 posted on 10/19/2017 10:53:38 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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