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Americans want a tax on carbon pollution, but how to get one?
The Guardian ^ | October 23, 2017 | by Dana Nuccitelli

Posted on 10/23/2017 11:48:12 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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It wasn't really about a carbon tax, it was about income re-distribution.

From the Digital Journal -

Using a representative survey of 1,226 American adults, respondents were given ten different ways to spend the revenue from a carbon tax and asked whether or not they would support each of these expenditures. Nearly 80 percent were in favor of using the carbon tax revenue for developing renewable energy, or fixing America's infrastructure, like roads and bridges.

Sort of assumes a tax, and a ”how do you want it spent”, doesn't it?

And from the Citizens Climate Lobby -

This survey specifically asked about “requiring fossil fuel companies to pay a carbon tax and using the money to reduce other taxes (such as income tax) by an equal amount,” so we can’t be sure how much support there is for a carbon fee that would return money to households.

I see a carrot being dangled to reduce your other taxes...:^)

And, from one of the authors of the study -

Another key challenge to implementing a carbon tax is communicating effectively with the public, Carattini says. His team used a model of a Swiss economy to measure the effects of many carbon tax designs on greenhouse gas emissions, the economy as a whole, and low-income households — and then communicated those results to voters in their survey.

“What you need to realize, and what we made clear in the paper, is that regardless of the use of revenues, every carbon tax is going to decrease greenhouse gas emissions,” Carattini said. “If you don’t tell people how the carbon taxes work — and that they work — you may have some opposition.”

The Swiss study, he said, suggests a national carbon tax with a lump-sum transfer would be the most popular amongst voters. “It’s a new tax, but it doesn’t mean you’re getting poorer,” he said. “Under this progressive design, low-income households on average get slightly richer.”

More socialism. Do you think the MSM articles are giving you the full view of the survey and it's results?

81 posted on 10/23/2017 1:32:29 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

According to a new study, people think Yale studies lie. (sample size: self)


82 posted on 10/23/2017 1:53:51 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

According to a new study, people think Yale studies lie. (sample size: self)


83 posted on 10/23/2017 1:56:00 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

According to a new study published by Yale, Americans are willing to pay a carbon tax that would increase their household energy bills by $15 per month, or about 15%, on average. This result is consistent with a survey from last year that also found Americans are willing to pay an average of $15 to $20 per month to combat climate change.

Uhm, no. No one asked me, and my answer would be very simply - what combat climate change how, exactly? The sun is the driving factor in all global climate, so how do you propose we fight the sun?


84 posted on 10/23/2017 2:09:56 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We already pay for our fuel. We don’t want to pay a tax on what isn’t the damn government’s.


85 posted on 10/23/2017 2:29:28 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: DoughtyOne

I certainly do not want to pay taxes on something I do not even believe is real.


86 posted on 10/23/2017 3:09:35 PM PDT by Tomato lover (Jesus is Lord of all, Praise His Holy name.)
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Same here.


87 posted on 10/23/2017 3:24:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: Army Air Corps

So who did they poll for this piece of disinformation? Most Americans realize a tax like this would accomplish nothing but redistribution of wealth. If you poll the right people,I guess you can get any result you want.


88 posted on 10/23/2017 3:58:00 PM PDT by oldtech
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Nobody asked me. No, I am not for the boondoggle.


89 posted on 10/23/2017 4:20:20 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk (A Texas Deplorable.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Just mention “tax” and Lefties start salivating. Add in the environmental cause and they hyperventilate.


90 posted on 10/23/2017 4:23:18 PM PDT by Rockingham
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I agree with your take on it Rockingham.
91 posted on 10/23/2017 4:46:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Liars.


92 posted on 10/23/2017 5:30:12 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“According to a new study published by Yale, Americans are willing to pay a carbon tax that would increase their household energy bills by $15 per month, or about 15%, on average. This result is consistent with a survey from last year that also found Americans are willing to pay an average of $15 to $20 per month to combat climate change.”

Let me TRANSLATE what this means. It means that most Americans believe that they can maintain their EXACT LIFESTYLE if it costs an additional $15 to $20 per month.

If they were instead asked if they’re willing to live with 82F thermostats in summer, 62F thermostats in winter, and a Yugo instead of their SUV, the support for that would drop to about 12%.

The point being that making life cost $200 more per year, without ANYTHING else being done, as the survey states, is something that most people can live with...particularly if they think they’re somehow saving the world at the same time.

But tell them that their lives must suck in order to change the world, WHICH IS THE CASE (and then still very questionable), and they won’t stand for that, not for a minute!!!


93 posted on 10/23/2017 8:55:31 PM PDT by BobL ( I beat up McDonald's and Walmart because it makes me feel like a man)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

heh. I’ll look into a better writer. If I could get a hug AND a million dollars.....


94 posted on 10/24/2017 5:13:20 AM PDT by wbill
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To: az_gila

Politicians: “Trust us. We are going to add Tax A, but we will reduce Tax B to help you.”

Who wouldn’t believe that?


95 posted on 10/24/2017 8:27:15 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Delingpole: Now 400 Scientific Papers in 2017 Say ‘Global Warming’ Is a Myth

breitbart.com ^ | 10/24/2017 | James Delingpole
Posted on 10/24/2017, 7:09:40 AM by rktman

When I reported earlier this year on the 58 scientific papers published in 2017 that say global warming is a myth the greenies’ heads exploded.

Since then, that figure has risen to 400 scientific papers.

Can you imagine the misery and consternation and horror this is going to cause in the corrupt, rancid, rent-seeking world of the Climate Industrial Complex?

I can. It will look something like this.

Just to be clear, so the greenies can’t bleat about being misrepresented, here is what these various papers say:

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


96 posted on 10/25/2017 7:30:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Trump is kicking their a$$es, they, ______________, want to quit. (Fill in the blank!))
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