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Catalan Parliament Declares Independence From Spain
BBC ^ | 10/27/17

Posted on 10/27/2017 7:14:03 AM PDT by Enlightened1

A Catalan independence supporter holds a Catalan flag

The Catalan regional parliament has voted to declare independence from Spain, just as the Spanish government appears set to impose direct rule.

The move was backed 70-10 in a ballot boycotted by opposition MPs.

Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy earlier told senators direct rule was needed to return "law, democracy and stability" to Catalonia.

The crisis began when Catalans backed independence in a disputed vote earlier this month.

The Catalan government said that of the 43% of potential voters who took part in the referendum, 90% were in favour of independence. But Spain's Constitutional Court had ruled the vote illegal.

In all, the motion declaring independence was approved with 70 in favour, 10 against and two abstentions in the 135-seat chamber.

Immediately afterwards, Mr Rajoy called for all Spaniards to remain calm, promising to "restore legality" to Catalonia.

Spain's Senate is still to vote on whether for the first time to enact Article 155 of the Spanish constitution, which empowers the government to take "all measures necessary to compel" a region in case of a crisis.

It would enable Madrid to fire Catalan leaders, and take control of the region's finances, police and public media.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: catalan; catalonia; declares; europe; independence; parliament; spain; whoops
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Today is Catalan Declaration Of Independence from Spain and the E.U.
1 posted on 10/27/2017 7:14:03 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

BTTT


2 posted on 10/27/2017 7:15:10 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

They must be getting advice from Jerry Brown.


3 posted on 10/27/2017 7:15:29 AM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: Enlightened1

This is without a doubt a REJECTION of Globalism!

I love it!


4 posted on 10/27/2017 7:15:48 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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If they really voted to declare independence, and not just the intent to do so, should we recognize them as a sovereign state?


5 posted on 10/27/2017 7:17:26 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: Enlightened1

So, what happens next? Another Spanish Civil War? We could send our leftists over to help.


6 posted on 10/27/2017 7:18:37 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Enlightened1

Yes. The Elitists want one world government.

But then Brexit.
And Trump.
And Catalonia.

The people do not want one world government. The people want local rule. As they always have.


7 posted on 10/27/2017 7:18:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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Wait, 90% of 43% means that fewer then 4 out of 10 Catalans have declared the desire to be independent of Spain. That’s a terrible basis on which to found a country. I don’t think they’ve thought this through.


8 posted on 10/27/2017 7:19:43 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("In a Time of Universal Deceit Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act" - George Orwell)
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And the senate in Madrid has just voted for activation of paragraph 155 regarding Catalonia. This is not good! Both sides are run by maximalists. Very likely the situation will continue to escalate.


9 posted on 10/27/2017 7:20:29 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Enlightened1

This is without a doubt a REJECTION of Globalism!

I love it!


This is without a doubt an example of Catalan arrogance.

Fixed it for you.


10 posted on 10/27/2017 7:21:17 AM PDT by lodi90
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Somewhere last year, I was reading an economic depiction of Spain and it’s fifty provinces. Roughly twelve of them make up fifty-percent of the tax revenue of the country. The areas with the tourism? They make up most of the twelve as well.

What Catalonia wanted was just some fairer way of tax revenue return to their own region. You couldn’t do that, without screwing over the lesser regions of the country.

Same problem brewing in Italy, and to a lesser degree in Germany.


11 posted on 10/27/2017 7:21:55 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: jalisco555

Only one-third of American colonists were in favor of independence from England.


12 posted on 10/27/2017 7:22:30 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: pepsionice

Veneto (Venice) and Lombardy (Milan) held referendums last week on increased autonomy. About 60% turnout in Veneto and 40% in Lombardy. More than 95% yes vote in both regions.


13 posted on 10/27/2017 7:25:00 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: tumblindice
Only one-third of American colonists were in favor of independence from England.

I expected that argument. But there was never a referendum on the subject so we don't really know. Also, are Catalans prepared to fight a seven year long war?

14 posted on 10/27/2017 7:25:17 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("In a Time of Universal Deceit Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act" - George Orwell)
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Spain is a NATO ally and a member of the EU.

If Madrid sends in troops, what happens then?..................


15 posted on 10/27/2017 7:26:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The people do not want one world government. The people want local rule. As they always have.

The Romans had a solution for that...........

16 posted on 10/27/2017 7:26:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Enlightened1

“This is without a doubt a REJECTION of Globalism!”

I’d say it’s more a money issue. Catalonian taxes are largely spent outside of Catalonia. I don’t think, however, that any government they develop will be conservative. It will probably be just as socialist as the national government. Probably, the overall tax rate will go up, not down. They suddenly need to fund the infrastructure of a nation, with a military and all that implies. In two years as a free state you will see riots over the cost of maintaining the nation and the political giveaways their politicians will engage in.

Like California, they have not thought through the consequences of a win. Also, are they going to put up a border wall? Will they still be able to trade with the rest of the EU? I think both sides are making a huge mistake. If Spain goes into an occupation situation it will be a civil war. Spain should say, bye. And, then offer them a better deal in two years.


17 posted on 10/27/2017 7:27:04 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Enlightened1

and the EU ,well good for them


18 posted on 10/27/2017 7:27:41 AM PDT by butlerweave (it's the children are)
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To: lodi90

40% of all the taxes collected for Spain come from Catalan.

They are tired of being told to pay even more taxes for the Migrants who will not even assimilate and go on welfare

How is that arrogant?


19 posted on 10/27/2017 7:27:44 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: jalisco555

” ... we don’t really know.”
http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/5641
Same with Catalonia.


20 posted on 10/27/2017 7:28:00 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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