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Trump Chief of Staff John Kelly Says ‘Lack of Compromise’ Led to Civil War
NBC News ^ | October 31, 2017 | ALEX JOHNSON

Posted on 10/31/2017 8:17:25 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

White House Chief of Staff John Kelly waded into the long-simmering dispute over the removal of memorials to Confederate leaders saying in a televised interview on Monday night that "the lack of an ability to compromise led to the Civil War."

In the interview on Fox News' "The Ingraham Angle," host Laura Ingraham asked Kelly about the decision by Christ Church, an Episcopal congregation in the Washington suburb of Alexandria, Virginia, to remove plaques honoring President George Washington and Robert E. Lee, the commander of Confederate forces during the Civil War.

"Well, history's history," said Kelly, whom President Donald Trump moved from secretary of homeland security to be his chief of staff in July. "You know, 500 years later, it's inconceivable to me that you would take what we think now and apply it back then. I think it's just very, very dangerous. I think it shows you just how much of a lack of appreciation of history and what history is."

Confrontations over removal of Confederate monuments have exposed deep rifts in American society between advocates who argue that the Civil War is a foundation stone of American history whose combatants acted out of conscience and those who contend that the memorials honor Southern defenders of slavery who betrayed their country by launching an armed rebellion.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: civilwar; dixie; johnkelly; purge
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Of course he's being pummeled on Twitter over this.
1 posted on 10/31/2017 8:17:25 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

And?


2 posted on 10/31/2017 8:17:56 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
What could have been worse than losing 600,00 men in just over four years?

That was 2 percent of the population.

The equivalent to 6 million Americans dying today.

3 posted on 10/31/2017 8:20:58 AM PDT by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The heck is he doing, pontificating on the civil war? Did he ever catch those White House leakers? I missed the frog march.


4 posted on 10/31/2017 8:21:18 AM PDT by proust (Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be taken at his word.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Kelly’s not the only one who believed it was unnecessary.


5 posted on 10/31/2017 8:27:07 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The libs are always saying that negotiation is better than war. They should be agreeing with Kelly.


6 posted on 10/31/2017 8:27:18 AM PDT by djpg (..)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

so......we should have agreed to let black people remain in a LITTLE BIT of slavery?


7 posted on 10/31/2017 8:28:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

IMO, compromise is a slow surrender!
Lee?

Lee was right!

He missed a coupla good opportunities they say: He failed to continue on to the swamp @ Mannasas, and immediately after Gettysburg he failed again to go to the swamp, even though he was then in between the yankke army and lincoln.

So they say...but NOT the current THEY!

Semper TRUMP.45 If We Can Keep Him!
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8 posted on 10/31/2017 8:29:06 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I see nothing wrong with his comments. I’m sure there were men and leaders during the Civil War who asked themselves “how did we let it come to this?” as they surveyed the carnage.


9 posted on 10/31/2017 8:35:09 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

A friend was telling me the other day that his West Point graduate bass was espousing this the other day as how they are taught the Civil War at West Point.

In the way he explained it, it made a lot of sense.


10 posted on 10/31/2017 8:39:41 AM PDT by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Unless Trump told Kelly to go out and create a distraction, it’s hard to see the utility in this statement.


11 posted on 10/31/2017 8:40:18 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

If only we had a time machine to take us back to show leaders at the time what horror their decision to go to war caused.

If Kaiser Wilhelm could have been told WWI would last 4 years, killing millions and he would be deposed at the end.

If leaders in the pre-US Civil War could know the cost in lives and devastation to the South, maybe they would have agreed to free the slaves and compensate the then slave owners with a federal payment funded by national and import taxes. Maybe the newly freed could have been protected with laws allowing them work and education to integrate them into the national society.


12 posted on 10/31/2017 8:42:09 AM PDT by RicocheT (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Compromise=negotiation=artofthedeal


13 posted on 10/31/2017 8:42:59 AM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: Sans-Culotte

I see nothing wrong with his comments. I’m sure there were men and leaders during the Civil War who asked themselves “how did we let it come to this?” as they surveyed the carnage.

I agree with what you said. I’ve always thought that cooler heads SHOULD have prevailed but they didn’t and that’s sad....:(

I’m a Southerner and still have great respect for General Lee and his commanders and it enrages me to have this part of our history destroyed and I don’t know how we can stop this carnage (in a word) of destroying statues, changing names of streets or anything to do with the Civil War. It happened, it’s history, warts and all!!!


14 posted on 10/31/2017 8:44:47 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
so......we should have agreed to let black people remain in a LITTLE BIT of slavery?

On the flip side - it was a terrible loss of life and display of carnage for a group that decided to re-enslave itself to the masters of the DNC....

Besides, slavery was a sideline to the actual seeds that ignited the war...

Lincoln might do well in Europe today - "Want to exit the European Union? We'll destroy you, your cities and your families."

15 posted on 10/31/2017 8:47:06 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Once South Carolina declared its independence, the Federal government had no reason to maintain an armed force at Fort Sumter.

A small compromise to prevent a war. Relinquish it.


16 posted on 10/31/2017 8:49:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Wonder if the South would have freed the slaves if the North would have taken half of them


17 posted on 10/31/2017 8:50:28 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The US military is understandably not keen on giving up military bases it owns outright. Fort Sumter was literally a US-military-made island (artificial), and occupants were minding their own business, not interfering with anything else in the area - and did not take kindly to getting shelled by the nearby country. “Compromise” favoring peace would have required nothing more than the CSA leave the fort alone.


18 posted on 10/31/2017 8:50:42 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: BenLurkin

See #18.

Methinks peaceful compromise comes better from “you made X, it’s yours, keep it” than “you made X, now give it to me & GTFO.”


19 posted on 10/31/2017 8:52:58 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: KC_Lion
What could have been worse than losing 600,00 men in just over four years?

Kelly is absolutely right as to why.

600,000 killed and another 400,000 wounded.

Almost all men

That's 1 million war related cauualties out of a population of about 32 million.

Figure half the population were men and half women so that is 1 out of every 16 men.

Imagine a civil war today with 6,000,000 casualties.

That's why I rate Abraham Lincoln as one of the worst presidents.

Let the flaming begin!


20 posted on 10/31/2017 8:54:49 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Libtards wish anarchy and death for others, but exempt themselves.)
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