Posted on 11/01/2017 5:41:00 AM PDT by SJackson
Yeah, considered mentioning that. Luther had plenty to say against Islam, but was focused on theological issues - NOT matters of state. Just because he didn’t actively say “fight Muslims!” doesn’t mean he was pro-Islam.
I actually ran into something like this. Long story short, someone left our church because the denomination did not take an active stand against the second US-Iraq war. This was bewildering to the rest of us, because we didn’t think the denomination has legal standing to take such a non-theological position.
I was speaking , Peter abbey of Cluny speaking of arianism , of Jesus’ God and Jesus as true God and true human as says the Credo !
Abraham is not precisely Jesus Christ and jews who condamned or still reject Jesus Christ are hardly Abraham’s sons .
From another point of view , in other words , arianism is not christian and can be compatible with islam ( islam pretends that Jesus Christ is a prophet for islam undermining his message and life )
Go ask the Turks.
How Lutherans were created. See video at 1:30
Lisa Creates Life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx8D9jXswws
The whole basis of Protestantism is based on a demonic deception the fruits of which are plain - division, deception, violence, the destruction of actual Christian culture etc. Not saying that Protestants are bad people I am saying that the whole concept of Protestantism is. People get to heaven despite of not because of Protestantism.
Better. You had me until the hanging participle.
On the improved grammar.
But your argument is posh.
So, according to your argument, poor Protestants can get to heaven despite demonic possession and “destruction of actual Christian culture...”? Sounds like even Roman Catholics can get to heaven.
Sorry about that. I don’t like to dig on fellow Christians. Get the mote out of your eye, brother. Seems like you have a lot of resentment built up, perhaps deservedly so. There are a lot of Protestants that believe like you, in reverse. As Christians we have much bigger mountains to climb than tearing each other down.
Wee would be much better off if it were not for Luther.
Not sure if you’re on SJackon’s ping list.
From the Catholic catechism, tell me what the Catholic Church says regarding how one is assured salvation (i.e. get to heaven)
Politics, imperialism, and dynastic ambitions divided the west, even when religion wasn't an issue.
Read it.
Per the catechism, you cannot know whether you are going to heaven or not. If you knew you would die tomorrow, the church could not tell you if your salvation was assured (per its own doctrine). If you say you do know as a Catholic, you are outside of your church’s teaching.
Jesus brought the good news, He died for humanity’s sins, and the Bible says that we can know that we are saved from hell.
There was a point in my life when I knew I was going to hell. I knew it. I had not accepted Jesus, and I knew my fate was hell. Oh, I was Confirmed, I went to mass every Sunday, I said the rosary, I had my prayer cards, I had my metals of a saint that I wore. But I didn’t have Jesus Christ as my redeemer. I was going to be one of the ones that He said, “I never knew you” to.
I once asked a Catholic priest if I could be sure that I was going to heaven. Do you know what he told me? He stammered, paused a long time, looked at his shoes, and said to me: “well, that is a great mystery.“
My sins are forgiven. It’s not that I’m perfect, or that I’m better than anyone else. But no one can snatch me from Christ’s hand. And I know I’m going to heaven. The question you need to ask yourself is: are you sure? If not, would you like to be?
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