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Gitmo judge sends Marine general lawyer to 21 days confinement for disobeying orders
Miami Herald ^ | 11/1/17 | Carol Rosenberg

Posted on 11/01/2017 3:00:49 PM PDT by DoodleDawg

The USS Cole case judge Wednesday found the Marine general in charge of war court defense teams guilty of contempt for refusing to follow the judge’s orders and sentenced him to 21 days confinement and to pay a $1,000 fine.

Air Force Col. Vance Spath also declared “null and void” a decision by Marine Brig. Gen. John Baker, 50, to release three civilian defense attorneys from the case, and ordered them to appear before him in person at Guantánamo or by video feed next week.

At issue was Baker’s authority to excuse civilian, Pentagon-paid attorneys Rick Kammen, Rosa Eliades and Mary Spears from the case because of a secret ethics conflict involving attorney-client privilege. Also, the general refused a day earlier to either testify in front of Spath, or return the three lawyers to the case.

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baker; gitmo; johnbaker; maryspears; rickkammen; rosaeliades
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For those who want the New York City terrorist of yesterday shipped to Gitmo, something to think about. Sounds like it's more screwed up down there than the regular justice system is.
1 posted on 11/01/2017 3:00:50 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Sounds like an episode from JAG!


2 posted on 11/01/2017 3:06:58 PM PDT by Lent
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To: DoodleDawg

AF Colonel sentences a Marine Brigadier to the brig?

There’s something wrong in the Universe again.

O-6 of one service sentences O-7 of a different service.


3 posted on 11/01/2017 3:08:35 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Lent

I think I saw that one.


4 posted on 11/01/2017 3:11:56 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Mariner

We are a nation of laws, not of rank nor of men.

I might have a PhD and be a highly decorated vet (I am neither) but if I reach for something in my waistband really quickly a rookie cop with a H.S. diploma is going to ventilate me and be within the law to do so.


5 posted on 11/01/2017 3:13:49 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Mariner

Major league pissing contest going on !

Better break out the poncho.


6 posted on 11/01/2017 3:15:39 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: DoodleDawg

7 posted on 11/01/2017 3:20:56 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: RedStateRocker

Rank matters in Military.

A lot.


8 posted on 11/01/2017 3:22:48 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

The U.S. court system should not be made available to foreign combatants.

It should strictly be a military system.

If not, the jihadis can practice systematic lawfare against us, costing us millions of dollars to process each of thousands of captured militants.


9 posted on 11/01/2017 3:27:23 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: DoodleDawg

The thug’s hard Left anti-American ‘defense’ thought they could pervert this trial.
The judge is having none of it.


10 posted on 11/01/2017 3:28:56 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: DoodleDawg

The general will survive. It will be a humorous conversation amongst the general and his friends.

The Colonel however is finished.


11 posted on 11/01/2017 3:35:29 PM PDT by Fhios (Down with your fascism, up with our fascism.)
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The thug’s hard Left anti-American ‘defense’ thought they could pervert this trial.

Yep, the Marine Corps is full of hard left generals, isn't it. /sarcasm

12 posted on 11/01/2017 3:37:06 PM PDT by PAR35
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In this case, a judge outranks a mere defense team head. Military rank shouldn’t matter in court hierarchy.


13 posted on 11/01/2017 3:37:33 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Mariner

Laws should matter more.

We are a nation of laws not of men, rank, status or anything else.

Everyone is equal under the law in this country (or damned well SHOULD be) and that includes the military.


14 posted on 11/01/2017 3:37:35 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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The U.S. court system should not be made available to foreign combatants.

A statement that appears totally irrelevant to this story.

15 posted on 11/01/2017 3:38:32 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

One of them is spending 21 days in the brig. Under Obama he’d be getting a promotion.


16 posted on 11/01/2017 3:43:34 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: DoodleDawg

You can always tell a Marine....you just can’t tell him much.


17 posted on 11/01/2017 3:43:44 PM PDT by stylin19a (Best.Election.Ever)
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To: Fhios

yeah the colonel will be drummed out and forced to make millions in private practice.


18 posted on 11/01/2017 3:46:12 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (A proud member of the Ruthie Bader Afternoon Nap Club)
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To: DoodleDawg

Overall a real mess. That they have been tortured corrupts any trial and sense of justice. They are either prisoners of war or criminals. If they are charged with war crimes, should they not go to an international tribunal? Right now what we have is a big embarrassment and no easy fix other than by them dying of old age in custody.


19 posted on 11/01/2017 4:00:06 PM PDT by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: Mariner

“O-6 of one service sentences O-7 of a different service.”

There is a difference between rank and authority.


20 posted on 11/01/2017 4:05:35 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder.)
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